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United States
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I came across a 2000 Virginia State Quarter today with some odd features. The front seems to be standard, but the edge of the quarter is raised several times higher than normal (I would guess somewhere around 0.03").  The side of the quarter lacks any ridges and the bare copper is mostly seen with only a thin layer of zinc at the front edge.  The rear of the coin is very odd. What I thought originally was just abnormal wear on this surface, I now think was fabrication error. Around 60% of this surface is obscured and smooth with only the central portion of the ships visible. Virginia is barely legible at the top and the bottom portion is completely obscured. There are two burrs on this surface. One looks like a loose chip of zinc (or other silver metal) embedded into the face just to the left of the upper-left tip of the sail of the left-most ship. The other looks like a peeling edge of an additional thin layer of zinc on the surface just to the left of the V in Virginia.   I guess I'm just wondering if this is an interesting find or not. Any comments would be welcome. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This coin was abused outside the Mint. The exposure of the copper core around the reverse perimeter is one clear sign, as is the flattened, mushy design.
Error coin writer and researcher.
Edited by mikediamond
08/17/2011 11:42 pm
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United States
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Egypt
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First  to CCF  and second I think it is Post mint damage |
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United States
4778 Posts |
Not an error, just PMD like the posters above said. |
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United States
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Although this doesn't seem to match any error I know of and also looks similar to some PMD, I would keep it because it looks possible that some of the damage occurred within the mint, making it an error. I'd probably pay a bit more than face value just to see it closer up and determine for sure! |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I would keep it because it looks possible that some of the damage occurred within the mint, making it an error. If the damage occurred after the coin was struck, whether it happened inside the mint or outside doesn't matter. It is still just damage. |
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United States
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If it was damaged post mint how do you explain the good condition of the obverse with the raised edge along with the flattened appearance or the reverse? Wouldn't the damage to the back have had to be done with the front stuck to the die? Otherwise wouldn't both sides would be flattened?
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United States
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For all who are interested. The thinking on the terms "post strike damage" and "post mint damage" has evolved a bit. A better term that does cover damage to the coin that is not associated with the strike and also the milling (for the dollar coins that have lettering and numerals on the edge) is "post production damage".
I know, confusing.
BJ Neff
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United States
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the raised rim on odv raises a flag to me.. its in good condition otherwise.then the rev is completly damaged. I cant imagine how this happened
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pretty odd I have to say. Any chance a problem at the upset stage with this one then struck out of collar ? Or one or the other then PMDadded ? |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It is strange and I have no idea how the rim was raised without ruining both the obverse and reverse but I have to say PMD |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It looks to me like somebody machined the back of the coin to fit it in a button or something. I've never seen a piece of jewelry or with a modern quarter in it though.
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United States
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It is largely irrelevant how it happened. Unless you can find the culprit, that would be an impossible question to answer definitively. However, there is ZERO doubt that this did not happen at the Mint, it is simply a damaged coin and nothing more. Quote:
If it was damaged post mint how do you explain the good condition of the obverse with the raised edge along with the flattened appearance or the reverse? The extreme raised edge is a primary indicator of damage, that is certainly not a normal rim. Quote:
Wouldn't the damage to the back have had to be done with the front stuck to the die? The copper core is exposed so metal has been removed from this coin. There is no mechanism for the physical removal of metal during the striking process. |
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