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Here is a very interesting development. This coin came back from ANACS XF 45 as DAMAGED!!! I will post several photos in different lighting so that you can have a good perspective of the fields and devices. Please look closely. I don't see the damage! Do you? There is something about this coin that I am not saying at this time. It pertains to one particular variety of this year. I will fill you in on my opinions in my next few posts on this subject. Please give me your opinions. What do you see? Also notice the off center strike on the obverse. Another characteristic of the variety I am eluding to. Just look the coin over and see if you can find the "damage", or is the damage that ANACS "found" actually a variety characteristic? Any hairlines you see are on the holder. As far as the grade, I don't think this is an XF, but a VF. If it is an XF, its a slider and only because coins of this kind are so hard to find in any condition that are not corroded or have some other problem due to the metal compositions.      |
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Hmmm. S-271, I think. I found one on Heritage with identical dings to yours, considerably darker and in an old ANACS EF40 Details, Damaged slab. Same coin, or very darn similar.
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SuperDave,
Can you send me a link to the coin on Heritage?
Thanks!
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As near as I can tell, yours is small 7, small fraction and only the S-271 and S-274 match. Yours lacks the extended bar and bulge, and I saw a couple S-271's with pretty understated Comet features in my researches, including the very similar one to yours which I linked. I'm going to look closer, but it sure looks like the same coin to me. Just so you know, I'm not quoting anything I already knew before today. For this one, I went through EACS links, Heritage and a couple of Google searches. My skill lies in finding detail and interpreting it - I'm a researcher, not an encyclopedia.  |
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Originally posted by SuperDave
As near as I can tell, yours is small 7, small fraction and only the S-271 and S-274 match. Yours lacks the extended bar and bulge, and I saw a couple S-271's with pretty understated Comet features in my researches, including the very similar one to yours which I linked. I'm going to look closer, but it sure looks like the same coin to me.
Just so you know, I'm not quoting anything I already knew before today. For this one, I went through EACS links, Heritage and a couple of Google searches. My skill lies in finding detail and interpreting it - I'm a researcher, not an encyclopedia.
The S-274 would be the mound at the STA on the reverse. This coin is not that variety. Actually you hit spot on in your first post! VERY Good catch! It is the Comet variety. Now, where is the "damage" that ANACS sees? I see a few dings, but nothing that I would clasify as damage to the coin. Could it be they see the anomoly under her chin and just above the breast and have determined that to be damage?!!? I see those dings as broken die characteristics. How about you? |
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I agree this is the exact same coin as the one on Heritage, I have placed both pictures side by side and circled the hits on each coin that matches   |
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There's a fair number of examples of this die state on the Internet. After perusing them, I am of the opinion that the details in front of the neck, and next to the S on the reverse, are what caused ANACS to call this coin damaged. I saw nothing similar on any other coin; if it were a die state, I should think another one would have turned up.
I also believe that this is the same coin I linked earlier.
For the sake of history, let us decide to believe that this is old damage, a shrapnel wound from the Civil War on a coin which was carried as a lucky charm. We'll never know whether or not it worked.
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The damage would consist of the gouge above the bust, the significant hit under the chin, and the hits under the "E" in ONE.
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Originally posted by AuldFartte
The damage would consist of the gouge above the bust, the significant hit under the chin, and the hits under the "E" in ONE.
But are these enough to call this coin damaged or are they typical circulation hits for this type and age? |
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The current mood swing in the TPG world is towards conservative grading, and ANACS has always been fairly tough on surface marks, since they have a mechanism to slab them anyways. I don't find it hard to believe they'd call this one damaged. |
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Originally posted by SuperDave
The current mood swing in the TPG world is towards conservative grading, and ANACS has always been fairly tough on surface marks, since they have a mechanism to slab them anyways. I don't find it hard to believe they'd call this one damaged.
Dave, You are a scholar among scholars! Good point indeed! |
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