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Pillar of the Community
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And really if the government is going to start acting ridiculous, what is to really stop them from confiscating your house?
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I think Chavez's assessment of the risk is probably warranted. He is a much bigger target on the government's radar than the typical US citizen.
I would not worry too much about where you keep your stash. The same (hopefully legally issued by probable cause) warrants that would allow a safe deposit box seizure can also be used on your home or land. If the government is going to "start acting ridiculous" then I think no place would be safe.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Getting back to the regular low-life type thieves and meth heads. Something people might not think of is taking pictures of PM's with a GPS smart phone can leave a cyber road map to the exact location of a stash.
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United States
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Getting back to the regular low-life type thieves and meth heads. Something people might not think of is taking pictures of PM's with a GPS smart phone can leave a cyber road map to the exact location of a stash. +1 Something most people do not think of is that there is basically no online anonymity at all. If someone is determined to find another person, they can and will. The thieves and meth heads are part of a problem that will become much bigger down the road. I am still not quite sure what people predict. If a SDB can be seized and your property can be seized then some schmuck can follow you out into the woods and find your buried stash. I cannot help the cynicism at all... but here's what I see when I try to imagine people stashing secret silver/ gold reserves for the big Armageddon. I just wonder if they'll be riding around in their SUV's or actually walk and if they'll be rude and use their cellphones, while beheading someone who had some gold dust to buy a frozen McDonalds Cheeseburger...  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Something people might not think of is taking pictures of PM's with a GPS smart phone can leave a cyber road map to the exact location of a stash Not just smart phones, some digital cameras have that capability as well. Geotagging is already a favorite tool for the smart B&E artists, get the GPS data from your online photos and then check your Facebook updates to see when you leave the house  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Good point, lucky my camera is of the slightly lower tech type.  |
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United States
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Although it is very easy to turn that stuff off, the real problem I have is that you have to know to turn it off!
Stuff like this should be off by default. I believe "opt in" is the right way to implement features like this. If you cannot figure out how to turn it on, then you are safe from your own ignorance. However, if you do not know how to turn it off, you are vulnerable.
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Rest in Peace
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And really if the government is going to start acting ridiculous, what is to really stop them from confiscating your house? They do it all the time. They tried to steal confiscate Gary Hart's $3 million yacht because after partially dismantling it, they found a few joints hidden by a deckhand Hart didn't even know. If it was you or me, they'd have gotten away with it. Our local police drive around cars repainted "confiscated from a drug dealer". I feel like putting another sign up, saying "You gotta expect drug sellers in a town where the cops steal cars". Look up RICO and read cases like where they steal a landlord's house because the tenant had pot in the basement. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Something people might not think of is taking pictures of PM's with a GPS smart phone can leave a cyber road map to the exact location of a stash.
Serves 'em right for not using a REAL camera! Quote:
Look up RICO and read cases like where they steal a landlord's house because the tenant had pot in the basement. No need, Fredd. I know a gal and her husband who owned a rental house. One of her tenants had quite a pot farm going in the basement of that house. Cops located it via computer analysis of the local utility system. Got a warrant, raided the place, arrested the tenants, and caused a terrific stink over it. My friend had to hire a lawyer and spend mucho dollars and time getting this straightened out. They eventually had to sell the house to pay their lawyer. It was pretty much a complete financial screw job, although they were able to avoid going to jail so I guess there was at least one plus in the whole mess. |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Typically, the landlord has no idea, may even live out of state. Normal leases say the landlord can't even enter without advanced notice.
No way the landlord is going to have a sophisticated pot searching progrm, let alone access to city utility records.
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United States
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The problem is that the law places the blame on the PROPERTY and not on the perps.
If the property (house, etc) is guilty of producing drugs, then they can seize the property and you have no recourse.
That is the way they get around the innocent until proven guilty part of the Constitution. Property has NO rights, so STEALING the property has no Constitutional protection.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It is true that property has no rights... but property owners do. This is how they were able to keep the house rather than have it confiscated by the government. The tragic part of this is that it was a Pyrrhic victory.  |
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