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 Posted 12/15/2011  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, Angel, the dollar is rising and some of that seems to be due to Europeans selling Euro denominated assets and buying dollar denominated assets. Watching this is like seeing someone run out of a house that is 1/2 engulfed in flames and into the house next door that is only 1/3 engulfed in flames. Better perhaps but certainly no cure!
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 Posted 12/15/2011  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add satxwd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not buying gold and silver bullion right now because I feel they are over priced. I am buying quality numismatic coins that are a much better value. I'll take nice Carson City silver dollars over bullion any day of the week.
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 Posted 12/15/2011  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add allranger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am not buying gold. Gold is to rich for me for the time being. I have been buying silver and coins though. I break my purchases up into different categories.
1. Bullion. Regular silver rounds. Grab some when the price goes down.
2. County Bullion. Eagles, Britannias, Pandas, Maples, etc.
3. American Coins. I usually rotate between modern and classic.
4. World coins. Once again I rotate between modern and classic.
Using this method I have amassed a small collection with plenty of diversity. I am doing this for fun and as an investment, but with out any plans of selling anything. More a pass it on to the children type thing. PM and coins go in cycles. I remember when the numismatic market when bust a number of years ago because everybody thought they were a good buy for retirement accounts and what not. People lost a lot of money in that whole thing. That is why I am diversifying.
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 Posted 12/16/2011  10:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jenger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes I am buying.. I wish I had more $$ to spend because i'd like to get as much silver possible when the spot is >$30.

I will stop buying silver once it rises to $33 ($34 if my gut says otherwise)

As for gold, I am too broke for that. Plus, I don't see so much potential in gold anymore.. I think that gold will hang around just under $2k/oz and silver will be on the rise to catch up with the gold prices. (Or I may be totally wrong and gold will drop dramatically to catch up with silver)

My father just picked up a BEAUTIFUL 1986 1oz gold panda. Paid out the a** for it, but he likes shiny coins LOL
I think he paid a little under $1800 (yikes!) but mind you this was when gold was between $1650 - $1700.

Then again, I am just a 22yr old trying to make smart decisions with the little money I make. I could be very wrong.. But as the old lottery saying goes, "You need to be in it, to win it"
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 Posted 12/16/2011  2:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkfarm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why is gold to rich? I don't understand that one bit. The fractional 1/10 is cheap and if you look around you can even get the AGE 1/10 at spot. What you need to do is stop at some small shows where the small part time dealers are not trying to get current price plus spot. Many times these guy have made money on the current spot price and will let them go at spot.

Then there are those Mexican Peso's or what ever they call them for around $80.

Gold usually takes the biggest leap so if your speculating and you are I think it is worth the spread of risk.
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 Posted 12/16/2011  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuffaloBonehead to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't find the 1/10ths for spot. It's always spot plus 5-10%, which I'm generally ok with.

That being said, I'm thinking about plunking down some money on silver this weekend. I was going to put more money into gold, but silver is too tempting. Eventually I'll probably swap my silver out for gold, but that won't be for a while.
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 Posted 12/16/2011  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poboxw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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gold is too rich for me

i agree with mkfarm. Au is not expensive if you buy in smaller quantities. $50 worth of gold is $50 worth, just as much as $50 is silver. Reasonable premiums don't even matter because you will be able to sell for as much.


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a little under $1800

That's not bad at all for a full ounce of gold panda. Just be careful that it's not a fake. I was really into pandas until the effort of weeding out the fake coins and convincing buyers that I'm selling the real deal got to be more chore than fun.
Another tip from a fellow starter. Be cautious of the percentage of your available income your toss into silver. There is terrific potential in the growth of silver but if you can't afford to wait out one the dips, which can last months to a year, then you will stand to loose.


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 Posted 12/16/2011  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I'm not buying gold and silver bullion right now because I feel they are over priced.

Well, that is what makes markets... buyers AND sellers at any given price point.


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I am buying quality numismatic coins that are a much better value.

Wow! Speaking of "over priced".


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I'll take nice Carson City silver dollars over bullion any day of the week.

Yes, those are nice. Morgans are among my favorite coins. I have about 50 of them but nothing special. I just like the look they have and try to buy them around $25-30 each when I can. I like the ones that are in F-XF condition. They look nice but don't cost an arm and a leg.


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Eventually I'll probably swap my silver out for gold, but that won't be for a while.

Good plan, BB. With a Gold:Silver price ratio above 50:1 that is what I am doing as well. If it ever gets back to something more like 30:1 or even a bit less will be the time to do some PM trading.

I'm hoping that we will see another pull back in PM prices towards the end of the year. Time is running out for that but things can change fast in the PM realm. If they do, then that will be the time to get some more silver / trading material.
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 Posted 12/16/2011  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jenger-

You're young. Worst case scenario, you screw up royally and declare bankruptcy. You still have decades to learn from your mistakes and recover.
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 Posted 12/17/2011  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep... OR... he could simply listen to the older and wiser folks hereabouts and probably avoid nasty things like bankruptcy altogether.
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 Posted 12/17/2011  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jenger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I figure as long as I file around 25, i'll be cool. It takes what, 7 years to get it cleared from your credit history? 32 isn't too late to start over. =D
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 Posted 12/17/2011  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why plan for that you should try to do what and all you can to avoid bankruptcy. It could affect getting a job aside from your credit and so at 32 you would be starting from below the bottom. Its almost like you're planning to waste a lot of years for no good reason
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 Posted 12/17/2011  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jenger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
lol I was being sarcastic / funny.. guess I ain't so good at that!

NO, I do not plan on bankruptcy. At the moment, I am pretty well off with my finances / bills. I am 22, self employed (family business that I work my a$$ off for) I owe about $1200 in CC debt, no other debt. I bring in about $400 - $700 per week and my expenses are about $400 - $500 / month.
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 Posted 12/17/2011  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok then you're fine! I was just thinking how that time span would be a third of your life! Glad you were fooling around
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 Posted 12/17/2011  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jenger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yup! I hope to god that I will never have to be in that position.. I have really bad credit though. I was really immature and I was somehow able to get 3 credit cards @ 18 years old. All of which I maxed out almost instantly. Still paying them off actually (the $1200.. $800 on one card, $400 on the other) and I get raped with interest because of it! They hit me with a 29.99% APR! Ughhhhh..

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