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 Posted 10/12/2011  12:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I bet they see a lot of very common coins sent to them every day.

Probably alot more than they care to see- https://goccf.com/t/100068
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 Posted 10/12/2011  12:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bjones to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's this kinda stuff that sometimes threatens to kill the excitement of an otherwise exciting find.
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 Posted 10/12/2011  12:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No way I'd send it back to them. I'd send it to NGC with the proper variety listed on the submission form. In fact, I'd call them to let them know what a rare coin you are sending for grading. Like I said, given the rarity of it, they might just slab it at NGC. The PCGS "questionable color" designation is a cop-out IMO. They simply don't want it in their holder. The coin looks as original as can be and hopefully NGC will see it that way.
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 Posted 10/12/2011  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with bad thad, send it to ngc and let them know ahead of time that your sending it. If NGC won't grade it, I would send it to ANACS. ANACS will assign a grade to any problem coin so long as it is genuine and not covered in PVC residue or holed.
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I suppose there might be an issue with not having told them that it was a rare variety. But the thing I find amazing is that the company didn't recogognise it for what it is. I would be using their lack of due diligence as leverage in getting them to bend over backwards to have the coin properly graded. I don't know how sensitive they may be to poor publicity, but I'd look at that avenue before I went somewhere else. If your coin were to turn up in a coin magazine, would they like an accompanying comment that such a rarity was not identified my a slabbing company?
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The PCGS "questionable color" designation is a cop-out IMO. They simply don't want it in their holder.
Yeah...their attitude is a bit baffling, because I thought PCGS vs NGC etc. want rare coins in their slabs--how many of this coin do they see on a yearly basis? Perhaps you can hint as much to NGC, that you would like your coin to be in their slab?
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Send it to ANACS.
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I'm sure ANACS would be extremely happy if they graded it, I dont believe they've had one sent to them yet.
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I suppose there might be an issue with not having told them that it was a rare variety. But the thing I find amazing is that the company didn't recogognise it for what it is. I would be using their lack of due diligence as leverage in getting them to bend over backwards to have the coin properly graded.

On any given date/mint/denomination there can be many different varieties. Now if they happen to notice one they may list it, but they are not going to go out of their way to look for them. They don't have the time at maybe 23 seconds per coin. They would have to know every variety for every date and mint and be able to identify them without references. If you want them to spend more time to identify the variety, you pay for that extra effort.
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suppose there might be an issue with not having told them that it was a rare variety. But the thing I find amazing is that the company didn't recogognise it for what it is. I would be using their lack of due diligence as leverage in getting them to bend over backwards to have the coin properly graded. I don't know how sensitive they may be to poor publicity, but I'd look at that avenue before I went somewhere else. If your coin were to turn up in a coin magazine, would they like an accompanying comment that such a rarity was not identified my a slabbing company?


They grade so many coins per day and so quickly it's impossible to seek out a variety unless it's on the submission form. There's literally millions of varieties out there.

I still contend if the graders knew the variety and value this coin would have been graded and slabbed. There's no doubt in mind based on other rare coins I've seen that much is forgiven when something special crosses the graders hands.
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Any updates on this?
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I sent it back to PCGS I should get it back either saturday or Monday It was designated a Close AM but they still gave it a questionable color (toning on coin) Do you think it will affect the selling price? It could give the buyer the opportunity to regrade at another place, The coin is in good shape no major marks with a strong strike. I will take pics when I get it back.
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I should of listened to you BadThad! after all you know better than I. still could send it to ANACS myself gets exspensive.
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 Posted 10/28/2011  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ronbo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Wow: Even better then the 1992D. Congrats.
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