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10/03/2011 5:38 pm
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I'm going to say that this one looks a bit too good to be true. Is the color indicative of the coin being silvered or actually being struck in silver? There is just something about the design of this one that also bothers me. In fact, it seems a lot more like the Constantine coppers that I have seen.
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I can see what looks to be flow lines along the outside edge of the coin near the letters. This is a good sign, but I am unable to determine one way or another as to it's authenticity. I pray that it is authentic; it may very well be the best preserved siliquae I have ever seen! Are you sure Galerius did not commission new coins to be struck within the last year? It appears to have just been minted recently let alone 1700 years ago! Edited by ancientcoinguy
10/03/2011 5:57 pm
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The coin looks 100% genuine to me. I blew up the image to see if there were signs of resilvering, I didn't see any. I would love to have it. Wonder what the price is? If it turns out to be fake, whoever made it did a fantastic job.
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United States
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I'd have to see the edge. There is something wrong with this coin, but I can't seem to put my finger on it. If it's a fake, it's a good one. If its genuine, I want it. As of this moment, my money is on that it's a fake.
JW
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Is the color indicative of the coin being silvered or actually being struck in silver? It was struck in silver but even so its an incredible example. Quote:
Are you sure Galerius did not commission new coins to be struck within the last year?  Quote:
Wonder what the price is? $928 starting bid - 5 days to go. The fact that the seller described it as Maximian makes me think twice though. Someone selling something this beautiful shouldn't mis-describe it! I went looking for one on ebay after I saw this example elsewhere today - nice big picture this time:  I'm still scratching my head and drooling in equal amounts over both! |
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Pillar of the Community
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Do we know the size and weight? Looking at the image you posted, the color has to be way off. I have seen images of some silver coins that look gold, and bronze coins that look silver. I'm just not convinced about this coin. I wouldn't buy it without seeing it in hand first, especially at those prices. That's ridiculous. I've been looking for a Caligula Denarius for some time now and they only cost twice this coins value and they are extremely rare.
JW
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No sizes or weights given for the first coin - poor considering its for sale and will no doubt add to peoples concerns.
The second coin is not for sale but is 3.4grs - again no sizes given. The second coin has been discussed at length elsewhere and the consensus is its genuine - I think a lot of the doubt is sheer dis-belief anything can be 1700 years old and look literally like it was made 5 minutes ago. If real these coins really won the lottery as far as where they lay for 17 centuries.
$1000 is way too steep for me - would rather have a 100 $10 coins. Good luck with the Caligula Denarius, you've done incredibly well to get the first 11 but the 12th could take a while if you want it for a reasonable price.
As far as the quality and authenticity of these two coins go I think only museums and career experts could say for certain, they are prob also the only people who can afford to have collections of this quality.
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Well, if they prove to be genuine I'll eat my hat. Seriously, they are beautiful coins and probably worth the price to someone if genuine. Just not me. One can dream though.
JW
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I have a bid in for a Maximianus Argenteus in a current auction.
The coin I am bidding for is about the same condition, but is a rougher strike.
Viewing day coming up soon. I will get my 20x gem cutter's loupe onto it!
I am lodging a fairly low bid for it halfway between the reserve and the estimate. That should cover the buyer's commission.
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I will be anxiously awaiting to see the coin.
JW
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Admittedly, I'm very, very much a noob on Roman coins.  However, I know something of antiquities and their contemporary processes. I worked in academic archaeology publishing. IMO--the details on the portrait are too precise for materials/tooling from antiquity. But perhaps I haven't seen a museum piece ever like this. Dies weren't even tooled this nicely in 17C Europe. It looks mid 19thC or later repro--imo. --I hope I'm proven wrong, because I like to learn Edited by DVCollector
10/04/2011 4:57 pm
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Good luck Sel - If you win I want to see it too.
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I'm iffy about the first one but the second looks authentic to me. But if authentic, I wonder how they got so well preserved after 1700 years.... |
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