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US Legislation Seeks Steel Cents And Nickels

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 Posted 12/18/2011  3:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add firstcoin to your friends list

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Maybe we should go to wooden nickels?


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 Posted 12/18/2011  3:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Igleos to your friends list
Man......for me it makes me happy because I just started to collect pennies.....cant let it die now!
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 Posted 12/18/2011  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinut to your friends list
Honestly I think they will just adjust the composition of the Penny and Nickle to lower the cost. I do not think they will go away. Too many people will cry foul as it will end up costing people more when prices are adjusted. since I am not a fan of the current penny or nickle I won't cry if they are eliminated. However, if they change the designs to something more appealing then I'd have to reconsider.
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 Posted 12/18/2011  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stormdog123 to your friends list
I would not want steel cents. Most of my 1943 steel cents are rusted.
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 Posted 12/18/2011  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DNA to your friends list
How about an aluminum Cent (like the proposed 1974 Cent, but 2.5% copper-plated and another metal (nickel?) added to the majority-aluminum planchet for strength?

Bonuses: No rust, non-toxic if swallowed by children or pets (unlike the Zincolns)
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 Posted 12/19/2011  12:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add firstcoin to your friends list
I agree with coinut. I know that too many people are accustomed to the penny and nickel that it will be a challenge removing them. We already have enough trouble with the banks rounding already as it is.
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 Posted 12/19/2011  08:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augsburger to your friends list
It's surprising how quickly people will adapt to new coinage, when they have to. The whole of the Eurozone has done it, and many, many countries have had to cope with changes in currency due to inflation etc.
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 Posted 12/19/2011  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuffaloBonehead to your friends list
I don't know if I like an aluminum or steel cent. Aluminum feels too light and steel rusts too easily. Perhaps if there were some sort of alloy I could get behind I would enjoy a change.

Of course, I'm the kind of person that would like a return to copper cents. Maybe it should be changed to a Two Cent Piece or 3 cent piece made of copper.
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 Posted 12/19/2011  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Just eliminate them...both the cent and the nickel and the representative(s) that introduced this oop-a-la.

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Maybe I was a little hasty in my "eliminate" statement...how about make them NIFC like the half dollars and soon-to-be Presidential dollars? Mint the Cent and Nickel for profit for collectors?
I agree with both. And by eliminate, in reference to the representatives, you do mean vote-out of office, right?

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How about just leave it as is? To eliminate the penny would mean total restructure of pricing and tax rates. NOT a smart thing to do.
I do not know how many times I need to say this, but it has been a while, so here goes...

Your sales taxes are already rounded to the nearest cent. Do not believe me? What is the total price paid on an item that cost $19.99 with a 7% sales tax?

There is no reason why transactions cannot be rounded the the nearest five or ten cents (I say ten cents because we should kill the nickel with the cent). It is important to realize that rounding is to the nearest five or ten cents. There will be no price increases and gouging because everything will not be rounded up. Do we round up to the nearest cent now? No, we do not; we round to the nearest.

Eliminating the cent as a coin would not mean eliminating the cent from electronic transactions. Credit and debit cards do not care what physical forms of money exist. I have also said in the past, with regards to rounding, that most retailers will happily round down to the nearest nickel (or dime) for cash transactions because they save on fees from the electronic transaction. Several places in my area already do this.
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 Posted 12/19/2011  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
I agree with jbuck....just eliminate them both. They can still exist electronically and that's good enough. A certain minority complains about getting shafted out of a few cents due to rounding on a cash transation....I suspect these same people also wouldn't bother to bend over and pickup 5 cents or less laying on the ground.
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 Posted 12/19/2011  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gothic Florin to your friends list
I can't rollhunt if they are both eliminated, but I can certainly see the common sense argument for eliminating the penny. Poor ol' Abe!
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 Posted 12/20/2011  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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To eliminate the penny would mean total restructure of pricing and tax rates. NOT a smart thing to do.

No changing of pricing or tax rates would be needed.
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 Posted 12/20/2011  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
Let's use our heads here folks. Save money? We ARE talking about the US government!

IF they were to abolish the penny and nickel, by the time the bureaucrats get done with the process, they would have spent a few billion on paying some other bureaucrats to form a committee to pay another group of bureaucrats a few billion to see if a serious study would be feasible to eliminate the coins.

After this they would then need to disperse a few more billion to other bureaucrats in order to form a committee to see if a few more billion should not be paid to different bureaucrats to study to see if suggesting such a thing should be brought to the floor of the Legislature to vote on.

Then another group of ....

... until they could finally guarantee us they would save the taxpayers 100.00 per year.



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 Posted 12/20/2011  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
You may be exaggerating a bit.

Then again, billions do add up fast!

But, seriously, you may be right, considering that they have been trying to agree on something, whether it is composition change or elimination, for what seems to be an eternity.

As far as I know, elimination is the only option that does not benefit some political lobby (those with interests in whatever replacement material is being sold as the right solution).
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 Posted 12/20/2011  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list

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It's surprising how quickly people will adapt to new coinage, when they have to.
Exactly, just do it. Coins should be practical, most of all. We don't need pennies for commerce at all. Besides, Mr. Lincoln has had his 100 years, mostly good ones at that.
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