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Moderator
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I think it is worthwhile to make a distinction between what is a normal commemorative issue and what is part of a thematic series. Definitely something to ponder and discuss. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I am reminded of the term "topical" used by stamp collectors: birds, trains, fish, famous people and even coins! But "thematic" is an equivalent term and I like it. We "commemorate" a specific event. We "celebrate" National Parks, etc., UNLESS the year is an anniversary of the establishment of a particular park. 1934 - National Park Stamps 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The way that I understand the ATB Quarters is that it would be hard to classify them as a NCLC. Granted they may not be as many as we would like to see in circulation, they are definitely out there and were (except for the latest San Francisco circulating strikes) always intened to out among the brethern. They Kennedy half is now considered to be NCLC but also NIFC (Not Intended For Circulation) and yet were do find them from time to time popping up rolls of half dollars. And as you definition would infer the Kennedy half could also be a "thematic" also. So this one coin really fulfills many roles. Something that the ATB Quarters I don't see doing. The ATB's were intended to replaced the old Washington/Eagle and the State & Territorial quarters that have been in circulation since the '30's, and is scheduled to be replaced in turn by another quarter design. Really since the introduction of the first State Quarter through the latest ATB they are circulating and more properly could be called circulating legal tender commerative coins (Ciltcomic). It could be pronounced like Kiltcomics. The Kiltcomics are going to be with us for quite awhile as they were actually intended to modernize our coinage.
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
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@ghostrider: Thanks for sharing your thoughts, but I think there might be some confusion. My suggestion for classifying certain coins in a new way has nothing to do with whether the coins circulate or not - it is simply an attempt to better categorize coins that some call commemoratives when, in fact, they do not commemorate anything. My use of the word "thematic" was meant to identify coin series that share a common theme vs. mark a specific current event or historic anniversary. This definition would apply equally to circulating coins such as the Statehood and ATB Quarters as well as to coins not intended for circulation such as Canada's Dinosaur Fossil coins, Australia's Birds of Australia series or Tuvalu's Great Composers coins. I see the Statehood and ATB Quarters as circulating thematics vs. circulating commemoratives. Also, I don't believe my definition suggests that the Kennedy half-dollar should be considered a thematic. It is a regular issue coin and falls outside of the commemorative vs. thematic classification discussion. Of course, the Kennedy Presidential dollar that will eventually be released would be considered to be - at least by me - a thematic coin as it is part of a themed series of coins honoring US presidents.
Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
Edited by commems 01/11/2013 7:04 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Are the 2009 cents considered a commerative coin?
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
  United States
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@yotie: Yes, I would consider the four 2009 Lincoln cents to be commemoratives as they were issued to mark the bicentennial of Lincoln's birth.
Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
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@matthewvincent: Nice stamps! I really enjoy the look of "classic" US postage stamps. Great artwork!
Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Commems, do you think the new category would enhance the commemorative landscape? It sounds like there are discussions elsewhere and I am wondering what the effect of a new category would be on collecting.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think Thematics may be what will define the ultra modern era with commems being the red headed step child like normal
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Funny, I thought it would be reverse! (with Theamtics being the red-headed step child)
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Not sure how I missed this thread ... perhaps way too much work and worried about a sick father.  Anyways ... thought provoking discussion by commems ... as usual his insights into the world of commemorative coinage inspire many of us. David
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Valued Member
United States
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David, good luck and good health to your dad. My thoughts are with you.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: Funny, I thought it would be reverse! (with Theamtics being the red-headed step child) well our quarters will be thematic for years to come and if we kill the dollar bill so will our dollar coins this may hurt future collectors of cents and nickels and dimes by being too boring but may help our beloved commem series because of the variety of designs.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Mine as well - good luck with handling all that goes with helping a sick parent.
Edited by CoinsKelly 01/14/2013 8:32 pm
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
  United States
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Quote: ...do you think the new category would enhance the commemorative landscape? It sounds like there are discussions elsewhere and I am wondering what the effect of a new category would be on collecting. I think that if the hobby agreed to a distinction that separated coins of a true commemorative nature from those that are simply of a thematic or topical design, it would enhance the standing of commemorative coins among collectors (new and old). I believe it would support the special nature of true commemorative coins and make them more appealing to a wider audience. Just my opinion, of course...
Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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