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1992 P 25c DDO Found! Possible Tdo, Opinions & Thoughts Please.

 
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 Posted 11/30/2022  01:28 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ozzy5150 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I came across this coin today. I know there are very few Double Die quarters over the last 40 years. I find definate doubling on the Eye, Mouth, & Thought line to the East. There may be extra thickness to other devices but I don't have the experience or knowledge to speak to that aspect. I'm not sure it's visible in the pics but I think there are 3 different Eyes to the East making it a TDO. The livr isn't as prevalent but visible through a loupe. Thanks for the insight. I'm excited about this one.


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 Posted 11/30/2022  04:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
High bounce MD?
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 Posted 11/30/2022  06:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ozzy5150 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've added some pictures that clearly indicate the separation of points/details. Definitely not MD. I marked a few points of tripling for ease of identification. If I'm wrong in my assessment please explain why and how it differs fundamentally from the 1943 Double Eye Nickel or 1916 Nickel (Specifically Mouth/Neckline). I'd rather learn than just be agrivated at the irrational objectivity. Thank You All.



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 Posted 11/30/2022  08:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately, I can't assess what might be going on given the close-in images posted. Would be much less of a problem f I had the coin in-hand and could rotate it under different light sources, use magnification, etc. Alas, I'm left to try deciphering the posted images. Perhaps someone else may be able to provide better input. My apologies.
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 Posted 11/30/2022  11:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ozzy5150 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for replying, To be frank I understand there are mostly individuals that are just learning and it's rare something legitimate comes along. I'm not a pro, I've spent the last 2-1/2 years studying memorial pennies and a bit of time on Jefferson nickels. 70-80hrs a week. I've made a ton of mistakes, I can't grade to save my life but I do know the guidelines for DD vs MD. Thanks mostly to the advice of knowledgeable individuals on this site and the common reading sources.
What makes me upset is when there is to much objectivity, rules are used and broken at will, nothing is black and white. I've been advised several times that a DD will exhibit split corners or serifs. MD can't do that. This coin clearly has seperate doubled devices on the eye, nose, mouth & west neckline.
I believe the due that struck this coin was nearing the end of life or had been in contact with the hub to create several impressions either due press malfunction or operator mistake. When it was hubbed properly, the outside was cleaned up along with some areas in on the neck and hair. I believe the detail is too small to file the eye. That's the most logical chain of events I can come up with.
I can see the details in the pics just f fine. They may need to be enlarged. I'll work on getting some better shots. Thank You.
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 Posted 11/30/2022  11:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Correct. Slight bounce of Machine Doubling. The bridge of the nose is showing past Feeder Finger Damage, and was polished off, thinning the bridge area. But a normal die that has this die event, and slight Machine Doubling. Not a premium for this coin, just what you are looking at is what die events and striking events happened on your coin.
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1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

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