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1886, 1 Cent Indian, Grade Help!

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 Posted 01/17/2011  11:42 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Tomten to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello there!

Help me grade this coin!

I've also written in my excel-list that this is a Type II.. Can someone confirm that? :)

1886,-1-Cent-Indian,-Grade-Help!
1886,-1-Cent-Indian,-Grade-Help!
Sorry for slightly unfocused picture, but I hope it's good enough.

Thanks!
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 Posted 01/17/2011  12:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidZerbato to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a type II which is a little more rare than type 1. The last feather falls between "CA" while the type I last feather falls between the "IC." As for grade, I would say at least F-15 with a possibility of VF-20.
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 Posted 01/17/2011  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add x78089 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
F-15.
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Okay, thanks for the confirmation. I've set this as a VF with a CV of 90$. However I know my grading skills are very poor and I didn't spend more than 10 seconds on each coin while grading them in my Excel-list..
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This is not a VF coin. VF requires the base of the headband to be complete. I'd say F-15
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VF-20
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01/17/2011 2:39 pm
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I would also say, VF-20
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I compared it to PCGS/NGC F15 and VF20 Indians I have. This one seems to fall in the middle.
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I would go along with F15
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Hi. F15 is how I would grade this coin and it is a type 2. Just a couple of days ago I was looking through a large bin of IHC that were all priced 2 dollars each. Bought 7 and the only charged $7. One of them happened to be this coin but my was only VG
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Quote:
This is not a VF coin. VF requires the base of the headband to be complete. I'd say F-15


I agree. This coin is very close, but I do believe the head band merges into the forehead, particularly around the "IB."
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with VF20. By Rick Snow's grading standards, a VF is defined by a visible headband border underneath an completely legible LIBERTY.
I consider the headband complete enough, as other details appear consistent with VF such as the feathers, the hair/ribbon boundary, the denticle/rim boundary, and the reverse bow. It's also the "Type 2" obverse, which continues to the end of the IHC series.
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F-15 type II
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 Posted 01/18/2011  08:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tomten to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Summary of opinions:
F-15: 5
F-20: 3
In between: 2

My conclusion: F-17 ;)

edit: and thanks everyone!
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Wow, I must be a very hard grader. VG 10 for me. More than 3 letters in LIBERTY, but the letters are not complete. To me, F 12 would need all letters complete. The B and the E just don't cut it for me. Grading is just an opinion though.
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It was a hot summer and having that thingy on your head must've been sweaty, so ofcourse B and E would be a bit smeered out after some hundred years ;)
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