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A Counterfeit Older Than The Seller Claims

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Here is a situation that is not too often encountered. This seller has posted a counterfeit made BEFORE 1845 and he is incorrectly listing it as a "sand casting" from the Revolutionary period ca 1910.
Here is the coin.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...190067554887

The coin is actually a worn copy of the Riddell # 406. The coin was originally dated 1827 and has a Fantasy mint mark of G (with no small letter inside or adjacent) and assayer initials of AO. The eagle die was used on several different counterfeit varieties:

403 1838 Ms OM
410 1837 G AM
421 1829 P OR
423 1839 P OR

It is also a very close cousin of the following varieties:

227 1833 Zs OR
249 1836 Zs OM
404 1838 Ms OM

Of all the varieties, the 406 is the most common - I have 6 variations of the 406. It was made with a variety of assays but all are far underweight and have 10% silver or less.

I have written to the seller and advised him of the error in his listing.
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 Posted 12/31/2006  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think there are many people who do not know how involved counterfeit varieties can be. Until I started reading your posts and emails, I had no idea.
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swamperbob, Thank You for sharing all your knowledge, it helps everyone to make wiser buying decisions. You must have a lot of time and research involved and we are all benefiting from it. May you have a prosperous and Happy New Year.
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