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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I could use some help with proper attribution of this coin. Apparently the books most likely to help are Burgos, A. La moneda hispanica desde sus origenes hasta el siglo V. (Madrid, 2008) and Villaronga, Leandre. Corpus Nvmmvm Hispaniae Anti Avgvsti Aetatem. (Madrid: Jose A. Herrero, S.A.; 1994), which I do not have and since I only have a couple of coins from that part of the ancient world, are not high on my to-buy list. (seller's picture)  The seller has attributed it thusly: ZEUGITANIA. Carthage. Æ 12mm (1.91 gm). Carthago Nova, ca. 221-218 BC. Wreathed head of Tanit left / Crested Thracian helmet left. CNH 69, 46. Extremely rare. Earthen green patina. Very Fine.Elsewhere (coinproject) the attribution of a nearly identical issue is written as: City : Barcids in Spain
Metal : Bronze
Denomination : Ae 13
Struck / Cast : struck
Date Struck : 220 - 215 BC
Diameter : 12.4 mm
Weight : 1.404 g
Die Axis : 6 h
Obverse Description : Head of Tanit left
Reverse Description : Helmet
Primary Reference : CNH pg. 69, 46
Reference2 : Burgos 524
...and the seller of that coinproject coin (from Forvm) as: Carthaginians in Spain, 220-215 BC, Bronze AE 13, Burgos p. 22 # 125, VF, dark green patina, Carthago Nova mint, weight 1.404g, maximum diameter 12.4mm, die axis 180o, 220 - 215 B.C.; obverse head of Tanit left; reverse helmetI do not see it listed as being a Zeugitana issue on http://www.magnagraecia.nl/coins/Pu...ugitana.html so am inclined to think it is from Carthago Nova, not Zeugitana. Heritage (from whom I bought it) puts it under the heading of Zeugitana, Carthage, with the same primary reference as the second coin mentioned above. I am therefore confused. Can any of you help clarify this? And if it is from Spain rather than Zeugitana, what is the correct way to write this, if there even is a correct way? I've seen several variations: Iberia, Punic Iberia. Spain, Punic Spain. Carthaginians in Spain. Barcids in Spain. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Never mind... my question was answered elsewhere. The source cited by Heritage is wrong and the correct attribution is Carthago Nova, and there is no one correct way to indicate the origin (Iberia, Spain, Carthaginians in Spain, etc). I'm going to go with the more easily understood "SPAIN, Punic Spain. Carthago Nova." for my records. And if you're wondering why I'd buy something I didn't fully understand... I knew it was Punic and the smallest such bronze issued... now I have an example of the largest and the smallest Punic bronzes. And that makes me  Edited by ThisIsFun
11/17/2013 1:55 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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So does that mean you won't swap your stonking great shekel for my shield/helmet then?
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Neat looking little coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2480 Posts |
Haha, Pish, I do love your Macedonian shield coin but it would take bunches more to get me to trade  Not sure there's anything that would make me want to trade or sell it. Well, I suppose there would be some dollar amount but it would have to be crazy high, higher than any sane person would pay. In other words, I'm keeping it. Although Noob did call first dibs should I change my mind. |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Doubt if I could afford it TIF but I have my little one to gaze upon :)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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TIF interesting coin.great color and details.. when I started collecting ancients, all I saw was Roman, Greeks, now it seems like a whole new ancient group within this realm..Thanks to you and Noob and a few others, thanks for all the new info...  |
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Pillar of the Community
Netherlands
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Nice coin for your collection TIF!
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