New... Dan Carr 1964 Morgan Dollars!

Trout and the majority of others just don't get it. Which is fine unless they start rioting and beating up Carr supporters

I'd bet the largest opal in Coober Pedy that you are dead wrong trout

You know, I can see both sides of the issue. The correct one and Trout's wrong one

Seriously... where would we be without great CCF mate from OZ anyway?

My perspective brings the Daniel Carr offerings debate down to one of differing mindsets from different parts of the world. I know as much as I love the design of some of the older Aussie coins, I just cannot get into collecting them. In fact I cannot muster excitement from any coins except Canada and the US as far as collecting a series goes. I think its b/c I have a tie to both countries (?).

So if the shoe was on the other foot, the perceived "magic" (go ahead and laugh Trout ) of holding an Aussie overstrike coin in hand of similar ilk just would not mean anything to me at all. I might see them like Trout does.

As a person with ties to the history of US coinage, and knowing the 64D Morgan was almost reality, I enjoy being able to hold the closest thing I could ever get to it. Its a tactile reminder of the cool story behind what the mint almost did.

The 2017 Peace dollar is fun to have in hand (wish I did) b/c it was a design that was planned, not made, and so the design has a neat story. I know when I first read the story of the broken sword design, my first thought was, "that would have been cool to own!" So again this Carr design is a tactile reminder of the history of what almost all our Peace dollars could have looked like... and I can actually own a sort of representative of the story.

Besides all of that, once a date MM set is complete, and the hunt is done, its sort of a let down. I have all the JFK halves. I know that after the last one was acquired, I wished there were more. So I started looking at the variants (well - the non-microscopic ones anyway). Then I saw Daniel's JFK overstrikes and they sparked me on to another hunt in a series I specialize in. The fun was back.

Chinese counterfeits would not do the same for me b/c they are not actual US coins, and they are not made on an actual Denver mint press that made coins I probably already own.

Its a hobby after all. Where the fun leads, and I have no way of programming where my ideas of fun come from, I go!

I really, really tried to read all the posts on this thread, but I got halfway through and it seemed to start repeating itself.

It seems that Trout is fighting a lonely battle, but I'm in the same pocket. Carr's issues are as close to illegal as you can get and I don't see how that makes anyone excited.

I speak, of course, of the altered date Kennedy halves. Nothing is changed except for the date. That, IMO, is dishonest. If Carr were truly creative, then it wouldn't depend on existing US coins.

I would much rather have a Hobo nickel with actual art on it than a US coin that features only an altered date to make it look legitimate.

I'm sure Carr knows that this will fool people and that's the problem. Also, if you're so proud of your work, why not put your signature or initials on it? Also suspect.

IMHO, not so .... Many great works of art have been replicated in various forms. Take the Remington bronzes for example. Few folks could afford to buy Gainsborough's Blue Boy. My Mom had a miniature copy of that painting hanging on a wall, and loved it, she did. Then too, numbered prints of of art work are greatly appreciated and valued by collectors ... Art needs not be unique to be admired, treasured or valuable.

On another note, the fact that coins were struck at a mint doesn't make them legal tender. Consider the U.S. 1913 Liberty nickels and many error coins that were surreptitiously made therein.

Here is an example of a Genuine Australian restrike.
The same design and both of the coins are struck in Silver, They both have a legal tender status and they were both struck at the Royal Australian Mint after being given approval by the Australian government.
They are both genuine "Coins" not tokens or fantasies as the Dan Carr restrikes are.
This for me is the difference between a legitimate restrike and a private individuals illegitimate offering

Like I have said I don't consider these pieces as art, they are simply copies.
My main objection to these pieces is their very real potential to be used as a Scam and being sold to uneducated collectors as Rare coins.
Yea, yea, yea everyone says that will never happen But of course it will happen eventually and even an xrf inspection of the coin will validate that the coin is the exact same composition as a real coin.

Good point! Again - I thinks its part of the cultural difference.

*** Staff Edit: Keep the politics out of this topic! ***