Yeah I can def see it now.. thanks coop see I've been looking at alot of those comparisons lately it's helped me out alot I have such a better idea of what I'm looking for. I'm not even close to grasping it yet. I'm for sure closer then I was though. Question so whenever I'm looking at it.. do I look straight down at the devices or do I look at an angle or does it depend on direction of the spread and circumstance of the coin.