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1958 D Double Die Date Penny Possibility?

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 Posted 12/03/2022  12:43 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Rmbaa to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello Everyone!

I just found this penny while searching through my coins and would like some insight on this one. I thought that it might be Machine Doubling but looks to me like raised edges. Am I just seeing what I would like to see? There also appears to be some doubling on the edge of shirt and upper chin. Thank you for all your help!

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 Posted 12/03/2022  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin rejector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Flat/shelf-like, MD.
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 Posted 12/03/2022  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not a Doubled Die.
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A doubled die will be raised, not flattened:
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This will be hub doubling on the die, thus a doubled die. Your coin is a striking issue, not a doubled die issue. Machine Doubling is common and can happen even on doubled dies. But Machine Doubling never creates a doubled die.

First clue?
1. Note the affected areas are flat on the inside and outside edges of the devices. On a doubled die, the spread will be raised and show the contour on the affected devices.
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Note the pushed metal can be taller than the normal height of the devices. The metal has to go somewhere?

2. Note the flattening is forming a 90 degree angle where the contour was removed. Flat, not raised like a doubled die would be. This is common and a striking issue, not a die issue. (Only a doubled die can strike a doubled die coin)
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3. The devices will be enlarged by the spread on a doubled die.
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1958-D-Double-Die-Date-Penny-Possibility?
Note the contour of the devices. Machine Doubling removes this.

CoopHome: Why is Machine Doubling common? caused by the machine with slight looseness of the machine. happens on normal and doubled dies. but never creates a doubled die. a doubled die is caused on the die, not by the machine.

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Thank you for the information!
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Machine Doubling. Keep searching!
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