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copper nickel daddy Pillar of the Community United States 2224 Posts	Posted 04/06/2010 10:59 pm I've seen photos of fakes next to real ones, and have held a fake in one hand with a real one in the other, and this is one series I absolutely cannot tell the difference. Not that I am any expert, mind you! Give me a fake Morgan and I will nail it 4 out of five times, but Trade dollars always throw me. And there are SO many fakes out there! I wouldn't touch this series without one of the Big Three TPG's (NGC, PCGS, ANACS) certifying it. Then you have to worry about fake slabs! No wonder I stick to bank roll coin hunting; counterfeits give me a headache! Report this Post to the Staff
TDColl Valued Member United States 161 Posts	Posted 04/06/2010 11:25 pm My opinion- both fakes; bad surfaces, bad rims and problems with dentils and some other details that forgers often don't get quite right. I've looked at hundreds, maybe thousands, of Trade dollars on ebay and I believe that at least 95% of the raw CC Trade dollars are fakes. They are getting better all the time, so buying certified is the way to go... of course, a Counterfeit Detection group that I help moderate has a photo album full of fake PCGS slabs containing fake (or bad quality genuine) Trade dollars. Report this Post to the Staff
TDColl Valued Member United States 161 Posts	Posted 04/06/2010 11:29 pm here's a link to id'ing fake Trade dollars you may find helpful: http://www.cointalk.com/t63695/ Report this Post to the Staff
SeatedNut Pillar of the Community United States 2797 Posts	Posted 04/06/2010 11:31 pm These are getting tougher and tougher to tell real from counterfeit. My recommendation to all would be to buy these in a reputable slab (verify that the slab isn't counterfeit as well) or from a dealer you trust. Never raw off ebay ... NEVER! Report this Post to the Staff
bryan1234 Valued Member United States 463 Posts	Posted 04/07/2010 01:41 am ebay is full of wounders Report this Post to the Staff
j_h_s Pillar of the Community United States 1934 Posts	Posted 04/07/2010 07:24 am TDColl....thanks...Even not knowing a thing about Trade dollars, during comparison to a PCGS-cert dollars I quickly spotted problems with the fingers and the area around Liberty. Counterfeiters sometimes do too well with details....it's a bust. Report this Post to the Staff
twohawks Pillar of the Community United States 1551 Posts	Posted 04/07/2010 10:31 am Trade and Seated dollars are becoming very hard to buy un-certified from my seat. I think there are more fakes out there them they ever minted originally. I have seen and held about 20 bad to great fakes that a friend of mine has. And the really good ones are silver and have the weight almost prefect. As I do not know if the ones are real or fake I will stay away from that part of the post. But I personally know some very knowledgeable dealers that have been burned by solid counterfeits Report this Post to the Staff
m9frank Pillar of the Community United States 628 Posts	Posted 04/07/2010 12:00 pm Thanks for the link TDColl Report this Post to the Staff
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