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Gold and silver are usually thought of as an inflation hedge, that is one of the reasons I stack it, but lately as inflation is climbing gold and silver are dropping? Why?
Inflation
I know that sounds counter to the prevailing wisdom but as the Fed raises interest rates to counter inflation the "value" of the USD, as expressed against a basket of world currencies, is rising. As gold is valued in USD, and the value of the USD is rising against the other world currencies, the price of gold is dropping.
"In economics, the Laffer curve illustrates a theoretical relationship between rates of taxation and the resulting levels of the government's tax revenue. The Laffer curve assumes that no tax revenue is raised at the extreme tax rates of 0% and 100%, and that there is a tax rate between 0% and 100% that maximizes government tax revenue."
In other words, cutting taxes increases revenue by spurring economic growth resulting in more activity to tax even at a lower rate, until the tax cut is so great that the economic growth isn't enough to offset the lower rate.
At some point I think we may see a similar effect with the USD. If the US inflation rate exceeds the worlds by a larger amount than the increased Fed interest rate than holding USD would be a losing proposition and the USD would drop in relationship to other currencies. Also if other countries raise their interest rate to counter the Fed
For example the US has a 8% inflation rate and the UK 7%. If the interest rate in the US exceeds the UK rate by 1% than holding USD versus Pounds Sterling makes sense and the USD would rise against the GBP. A year ago one GBP was worth $1.40, today closer to $1.20. That difference is reflected in the price of gold.
Yes there are many other factors that come into play in setting the relative value but I think gold and silver are being held down due to a strong dollar relative to other currencies and if that strength falters gold and silver will rise proportionally
Edited by jaxenro 05/13/2022 07:55 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yesterday the dollar euro exchange was down to $1.04. As low as I can remember in 20 years. Will other nations follow the Fed and raise interest rates to protect thir currencies? Or will the Fed back off? Do they have the patience to suppress inflation? For the time being inflated metals will continue to erode in dollar price IMO. That is what the Fed is trying to do, though they're more interested in lowering food and fuel prices than metals.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
Edited by thq 05/13/2022 08:15 am
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Agreed metals price is a by product not a concern of the Fed. I do think at some point metals will rise and fast when they do but we haven't hit that part of the curve yet
Remember a strong dollar makes imports cheaper as it buys more foreign currency
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 Canada
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The USD is going much higher and PMs are going to get smacked as a result . People paying huge premiums for silver right now Need a reality check .
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Valued Member
United States
397 Posts |
USD will continue to tank. Market is expecting the Fed to over-tighten, leading to recession, if we're not already in one. My opinion is that precious metals will crash, along with the rest of all the other assets, when reality sets in, which will present a once-in-a-lifetime buying opportunity. The Fed will then lower rates to 0 and start pumping money again - Jay Powell has said as much during one of the press conferences - driving the bubble again.
That said, it may be different this time due to inflation. Can't really go back to easy money when inflation is still at 5 or 6%, can you?
Cheers!
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Valued Member
United States
318 Posts |
For the time being gold and the dollar index DXY, are polar opposites. High DXY = lower gold and weaker DXY = gold rally. At the time of the original post, DXY was at 102 on its way up to 112 peaking around Sept 2022. At the same time gold dropped from about 1850 to bottoming around 1600. DXY has now corrected to about 102 and gold has rallied over $300.
DXY seems to still be in the same general uptrend for the past 15 years, starting at about 72 in Jan 2008. How about that? The old cleanest shirt in the hamper! Back in 2001-2002, DXY was as high as 120.
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United States
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Woohoo, silver dropped down to $22.35 today! Another buying opportunity, here we come  Just need it to drop down to $18 ...
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