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Pillar of the Community
Sweden
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Had a bad experience with this company. I bought several coins, one example is this riksdaler. The description stated XF, but the delivered coin shows signs of harsh cleaning. When asking for a refund, they simply stated that they take no responsibility for their descriptions or detail grades. In other words, they use deceptive descriptions. I realise many of you don't buy coins from Europe, but if you do, only buy graded examples or see the coins in hand before purchasing. I had greater expectations regarding Heritage Auctions.    Edited by Moniker 06/03/2026 11:35 am
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 United States
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Sure looks harshly cleaned in your detail photo. Was the coin raw, or certified by a TPG? I believe in the US that Heritage sells only certified examples and goes by whatever grade the TPG assigns.
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Pillar of the Community
 Sweden
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it was raw, but everyone can see inhand that the coin is cleaned
must check if this applies, it applies here in Sweden. I have no problem taking 20-30 dollars in return fees just to make their day a bit more problematic
"The EU Consumer Rights Directive (2011/83/EU) grants consumers a 14-day "cooling-off" period to return or cancel orders bought online, by phone, or by mail. Customers can return items for any or no reason without penalty, and sellers must issue a full refund, including original shipping costs, within 14 days of cancellation."
Edited by Moniker 06/03/2026 11:16 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7613 Posts |
Today the term "caveat emptor" holds to be true now more than ever.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2216 Posts |
I've had good experience with HA but only got a few coins from them. Those auction photos do not look natural, not like coin in hand, they don't show the coin surfaces at all or the color of silver. I don't know if HA takes their own photos or uses consignment seller photos. In the future perhaps don't bid on a coin unless there are better photos. I thought HA had a policy you could start return within three days of recieving a coin. You could at least file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau. They may not help but at least your complaint would be public on BBB site. The coins I got from HA had much better photos. When I buy coins on ebay I want good photos or seller offers returns and usually buy from sellers/dealers I already know, trust.
Edited by livingwater 06/03/2026 10:16 am
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 United States
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Ouch. 
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Pillar of the Community
 Sweden
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Quote: I thought HA had a policy you could start return within three days of recieving a coin. I thought so too. But I doubt they can wrestle their way out of EU directives about consumer rights. We will see — I'll update this thread. I also had higher expectations of Heritage, just as I have of Stacks. I expect their descriptions to cover basic issues such as a hole drilled through a coin, countermarkings, etc. The money itself isn't the issue! it's the fact that we turn to big auction houses for some kind of reassurance. That they won't try to fool us or sell fakes etc. OR that when misstakes are made they will correct them. We trust their knowledge and judgement For now I just have to "Stick to Stacks" they should pay me for this slogan 
Edited by Moniker 06/03/2026 11:44 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
73747 Posts |
That stinks. 
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
920 Posts |
I have had good luck with Heritage but only bid on TPG graded coins. Their pictures of graded coins are excellent.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
10485 Posts |
Quote:I believe in the US that Heritage sells only certified examples and goes by whatever grade the TPG assigns. Mostly yes - but they do offer ungraded coins in certain categories.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Quote: OR that when misstakes are made they will correct them. Moniker, that sucks. I wish you the best in this issue, and hope that you'll be reporting a more favorable outcome soon.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Pillar of the Community
 Sweden
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Thanks for support,will report back but I think it will take time, I have to send a report to authorities in NL, eu customer protection states that if an item is wrongfully portraited it might be egible for refund. Even if it doesn't help me they will have to reply etc and it might help others in the future Problem here is taking deceptive photos to hide a very visible cleaning. Some coins can be borderline dipped etc or hard to judge, but this one has been run over by a scotch brite and its impossible to not se this in hand Eu customer protection states that: Quote: Right to a Free Fix or Refund: If the item does not match the seller's description, photos, or advertisement, the seller must repair or replace it free of charge, or offer a price reduction or full refund. Full refunds are usually an option if repair or replacement isn't possible.
Edited by Moniker 06/04/2026 11:50 am
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Quote: I have no problem taking 20-30 dollars in return fees just to make their day a bit more problematic I would have to do the same thing... Please keep us posted. smat
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That really stinks Moniker. I look forward to any updates you have on this.
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Valued Member
United States
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MPO/HAE isn't a grade-obsessed US firm. Things are a bit different in other countries, and for firms that don't focus on moderns.
They had other egregiously misattributed coins at that auction, and even ignored one of the reference authors emailing them to correct them.
It was a six day, 10k lot auction, so they might not be able to accurately handle the volume.
The image of this one had barely perceptible vertical lines on magnification, so it was unprofessional to have not labeled a 19th century coin cleaned or scratch marks as they did with others. They wouldn't have done so with a medieval hammered, though.
(My parcel is stuck in customs with documentation issues...)
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