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Walking Back In Time From 1600 To Antiquity By Decades (V2.0)

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 Posted 09/27/2021  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sweeeet! I'll see what I can contribute for tomorrow.
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 Posted 09/27/2021  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Wow!,,,,,,Great pick up Steve and 'Rrrreally' nice detail..
Yeah...

Kinda sad that so much of the legend is off flan, but with so many other things in favor, it's still an awesome coin. And with a full legend it would probably have been worth crazy money anyway.

Looking forward to further progress! I'll have to look over my collection to see what, if anything, I have for the next few decades...
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 Posted 09/28/2021  06:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a Drachm of the Western Satraps issued by King Kumaragupta I. I believe that it is dated to GE 111, which roughly corresponds to 431 AD. I'm not super-knowledgeable about these though and welcome any additions or corrections.




I do have a few decades with no coins starting now, so I'm hoping our late Roman collectors can pick up the slack moving forward. Let's give it a day to see if there are any other coins of the 430s to post.
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 Posted 09/28/2021  1:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice one! I've been looking for a dated Gupta drachm, but I haven't managed to find one yet (save for that Skandagupta mentioned a few pages back that I didn't want to pay a premium for)

I double checked, and I do have this

Theodosius II
AE2, Cherson mint
DN THEODOSIVS PF AVG, Diademed (helmeted?) Draped bust right (should be holding spear?)
CONCORDIA AVGV / CONS, Theodosius II and Valentinian III standing, holding long cross between them

Minted ca. 437



This type is one of the few varieties of larger AE minted after about 410 and before the reform of Anastasius. They are mintmarked Constantinople, but IIRC have only been found in Cherson, suggesting local mintage. They are believed to commemorate the marriage of Valentinian III to Licinia Eudoxia, daughter of Theodosius II, in 437.
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 Posted 09/28/2021  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Let's drop back to the decade of the 420s tomorrow. Noice!
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 Posted 09/29/2021  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
420s are easy enough

Johannes ruled from 423-425



This type was minted by Theodosius II for Valentinian III to commemorate his accession. The date I have for it is 425-429. It is notable for the distinctly childlike portrait, fitting as he would have been less than 10 years old here.

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410s might be tougher than I initially thought. Trouble is that none of the common AEs of Theodosius II and Honorius can be easily assigned to this decade (most run from the 400s to the 410s or from the 410s to 423) - we might have to reach out to @VisigothKing to see if he can post his Jovinus to keep us moving.

Yazdgard II won't be much help because I don't think his coins can be assigned to a decade, and this period of the Gupta Empire is still too poorly understood.

Once we're past the 410s, I'm pretty sure I can carry us most of the way back to Augustus.

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 Posted 09/29/2021  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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410s might be tougher than I initially thought.
I looked at Numista, and I have to admit that their coverage of the late ancient era is highly spotty, so they could have easily missed something, but as it is, they only had three good entries for the 410s, and... let's just say that Jovinus is by far the most common of them.
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Ok well sure the 410s might be hard, but we can worry about that tomorrow. For now, let's enjoy these two excellent coins.
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 Posted 09/29/2021  11:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No other 420s?
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 Posted 09/30/2021  07:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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No other 420s?
I've got a bunch of late AEs of Honorius and Theodosius II... even a few Valentinian III ones, IIRC. Will have to check if any of them match the 420s.
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@j1m, ok in an effort to be inclusive, we can hold off dropping back for another day or two so that you can check to see if you've got a contribution for the decade of the 420s.
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 Posted 09/30/2021  8:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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we can hold off dropping back for another day or two
You don't need to. Do you have a coin from the 410s? If yes, I'd rather let this continue further; people are waiting for easier decades to come up. If no, AFAIK I'm allowed to post 420s coins until someone posts a 410s coin.
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Ok sure that is fine too. I jsut wanted to make sure that you felt like you could participate.

Unfortunately, I don't have a coin of the 410s. This century is perhaps my lightest in terms of coins. I counted the other day that I only have 11 coins in the 5th century, and these mostly either come from the second half or span way too far of a time period to help with this particular thread. For example, this AE Unit of the Pallavas Dynasty was minted in Kanchipuram pretty much from the beginning of the 5th century right through the middle of the eight century:


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 Posted 09/30/2021  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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This century is perhaps my lightest in terms of coins.
I'm fascinated (for some reason I don't quite understand) by the late Roman bronzes of (the first half of) the 5th century (Arcadius, Honorius, Theodosius II, Valentinian III, Leo; coins of most of the other emperors of the period are too unaffordable, though I'm still looking for a Zeno or Marcian).
So I have a few dozen, but they're almost all the same kind of thing; I'm not sure I've got even a single 5th century coin that's not a LRB.
[EDIT: I guess the gold imitation technically qualifies, and so might the other two imitations for that matter. Numista puts my Asbar coin into the 5th century, but I've seen dates anywhere from the 1st to the 8th.]

My own lightest (of the twenty-one AD centuries) is probably the 8th or the 13th, though I'm not very confident, having never really tried to catalog my collection, particularly relating to pre-1500 coins (it doesn't help that a lot of my ancient and medieval coins remain unattributed).
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