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I think I might go VG. No way to tell if it's real or not from the pics. Besides this coin attracts the best of the best as far as fakers. It might be fake, but look real even with better pics. Someone at a TPG needs to look at these things for a while to make sure. The price could be looked at either way. Either you got a great deal or if its fake, you got a really really bad one. Thing is, right around the $400 to $700 is where a lot of the fake ones tend to be sold at. The fakers know that if they price it less people would be too suspicious and if they go higher, only the scrutinizing buyers will remain. They know that little area in between is where some people take a shot at it because the buyers can't resist the deal. If you got this anywhere other than a reputable dealer I'd be very concerned. edit...to say, oh crap, I just re-read your post. You got it at an antique store? Even if that person wasn't ripping you off, whoever sold it to them probably was. They are rarely qualified to authenticate something like this. I'm changing my tone to "extremely concerned". Edited by hesgut
11/08/2011 11:29 pm
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I hope you can return it if it's not genuine. This is the most commonly seen counterfeit out there.
It does look roughly G06 and will require professional authentication.
Best of luck.
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The mm looks funny and coin appears cleaned. Assuming it's genuine, G6, might make VG8 Details.
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Pillar of the Community
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Can't say too much without good pictures, especially around the MM area.
Did the dealer offer to take it back assuming that if is not real?
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Here's a photo of a PCGS-certified example graded G-6. Note that there is a distinct open area inside the D mintmark. The shape of that area is diagnostic, resembling a distorted triangle. The mintmark on your coin is about the right shape and is in the right location but it is "filled", without a visible open space. That could be a red flag. You need to communicate with the antique shop about your purchase. It needs to be authenticated and they should be willing to refund your money if it comes back as "questionable authenticity" or "added mintmark". As stated, this is one of the most counterfeited coin in all of numismatics. Caveat emptor!  Whoa, 3000 posts!  Edited by Jaobler
11/09/2011 3:00 pm
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I can see the opening under a 60x loupe. I have inverted the colors to get rid of that annoying black spot and messed with the contrast a little, it is somewhat visible now.  Congrats on #3000 Jaobler! Edited by beachloan
11/09/2011 4:04 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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The mintmark does not look good. It's likely an added mintmark and requires professional authentication.
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Rest in Peace
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You may have lucked out. If it's an added mintmark, it is quite convincing. No obvious solder marks, right shape and size. The lack of being filled doesn't bother me, and the level of wear on the mm looks appropriate. The location appears lower than my example and Jaoblers example, but if I recall, there were 4 reverse dies with different locations. You definitely need to send it in to know for sure. Congrats on 3000 Jaobler!    Edited by johnny54321
11/10/2011 12:28 am
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Last picture shows that its not matching any of the 4 known die states, at least to me.
I would return it if possible, also the coin reverse looks more worn than the obverse which make me think something else is going on, like making it look more circulated.
Edit: I would say send it to ANACS and get it authenticated, pictures may still be unclear. This one is tough.
Edited by macmercury
11/10/2011 02:01 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Can you post a larger picture of the whole reverse. We might be able to tell if it is or isn't a type-of-1916 reverse.
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Needs authentication but I can say your mm looks like my PCGS AG03 example (crescent filled). 3000  Jaobler! swcoin.ecrater.com
Edited by vermontensium
11/10/2011 03:02 am
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The shape of the mint amrk looks good but there is only one way to know for sure.
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Thank you everybody for having a look and giving your input. I plan on sending this coin in as soon as I get a free day. As requested here are new full size photos of the coin.   |
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Rest in Peace
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Definitely a VG, but something really does look "off" with the coins appearance, in addition to the fact that it looks cleaned. Usually the obverse is stronger than the reverse detail wise and rim wise, so I don't think there is anything fishy there, but something just doesn't look right. I guess you will just have to send it in to know for sure.
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