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 Posted 12/21/2011  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list
or would it be this one? Cyzicus
RIC 90 What is a plum?
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 Posted 12/21/2011  10:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gil-galad to your friends list
After using Helvetica's Excel sheets, I narrowed down the list and I think it's

Cyzicus
RIC VII 91

OBVERSE:
VRBS-ROMA

Helmet with plume
facing left
wearing imperial mantle

REVERSE:

She-wolf feeding twins Romulus and Remus.

Two stars above.

SMK - last letter I cannot make out very well.

Here is what options you have for Cyzicus RIC VII 91, in exergue.

SMKA
SMKB
SMK gamma
SMK delta
SMK epsilon
SMKS

A plume or a Panache is a length of feathers or other material or fabric that is at a top of a helmet or hat. Here is a image of one similar.

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 Posted 12/21/2011  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gil-galad to your friends list
On the obverse, there appears to also be a necklace with no ornaments. That is also an option for the ID I gave.
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 Posted 12/21/2011  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list
Thanks Gil-galad I know I have some stupid questions sometimes thats what I figured the plume is a little different on the RIC 91 on wild winds with another extra piece sticking out in the fromt of the helmet so this is why I asked what a plume is I thought that extra piece was the plume that was given in the description.
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 Posted 12/22/2011  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list
My attribution for this coin is RIC VII Cyzicus 90, rated R3- RIC 91 has an upright plume at the front of the helmet.
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 Posted 12/22/2011  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doucet to your friends list


Quote:
RIC 90 What is a plum?

jessvc1,

Here is some info about the plume you refer to.

Your coin has no plume and is a D3 bust, plumed is D4.(a small feathered object at front of helmet)

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The arching object over the top of the helmet is referred to as crested helmet I believe.

You will find info about the D3-D4 Wolf and Twins on p.88 http://www.forumancientcoins.com/notinric/cv7.html

Here is a picture of a Constantinopolis I found with a plume and sent to Lech at Not In Ric. who then wrote about it in the corrigenda.
If you want to see more about the Constantinopolis coins it's written up at the p.90. click highlights to see the images.

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 Posted 12/22/2011  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list
Thanks Doucet for the info, I'll have to read up on this a little more.
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 Posted 12/22/2011  6:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list
OK my coin cleaning project is finally finished. I finished it off with a coat of wax. The details came out good but so did the corrosion. Overall I think this coin is a decent type coin for my collection.

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 Posted 12/22/2011  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doucet to your friends list
I agree. You did an amazing job cleaning that coin from the way it first appeared.

BTW I'm pretty sure it's SMK delta.
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 Posted 12/22/2011  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list
I agree its SMK delta. I left a few green deposits on the coin to add to the authenticity of the coin.
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12/22/2011 6:51 pm
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 Posted 12/22/2011  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list
Here is a couple of more pictures showing the dark green patina on this coin under a different light.

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12/22/2011 9:01 pm
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 Posted 12/23/2011  10:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJsCoins to your friends list
Wow that is fast!

First time that I have heard of this solution. Is this a kinder and gentler method than electrolysis? I have not tried zapping myself but I do have uncleaned coins that need more than olive oil.

By the way. Nice coins!
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 Posted 12/23/2011  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list
I watched a video on you tube and it shows a museum doing this. Depending on the coin usually I will use a few different methods. This seems to be the best on the patina. I usually experiment with all the cleaning methods and sometimes combine them depending on the coin. I also found out(the hard way) the less you put a coin through the better.
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 Posted 12/23/2011  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list
I guess you can say I have experimented with all kinds of methods from cleaning, to toning coins. I started to experiment with US coins so I could spot these when purchasing coins. I usually tweak the methods and use them in shorter times and dilute solutions it will take several different methods on some coins. One thing I have learned Heat will just ruin the coin no matter what you are trying to do.
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 Posted 12/23/2011  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJsCoins to your friends list
Thanks jessvc1! I will be looking for these ingredients to try out this method.

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