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Is This PMD Or From The Minting Process?

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 Posted 12/26/2011  09:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
Not rare except in cases of larger clips. Occurs when blanks are struck at the end of a strip. Somewhat scarcer than circular clips, which can happen at any point if the strip doesn't advance far enuf.

So yes, a mint error, specifically a planchet error.

$5-10 would be a realistic retail.
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 Posted 12/26/2011  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add the-purple-penny to your friends list
See the lettering that's involved in the clip. The bottom ends of the letters are fishtailed indicating it is a real clip. Don't see the Blakesley effect though but all coins won't show this, it's just another potential indictator.
http://www.australian-threepence.co...n-error.html

Maybe $40-$50 value as it looks unc.
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12/26/2011 5:17 pm
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 Posted 12/26/2011  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve - Oz 50c man to your friends list
I'm with purple penny, if this was a 50c I would pay $40-$50, maybe $60 tops if it looks as good first hand as it does in the pics...
This shows a small Blakesley effect in my humble opinion with the opposite rim thinning somewhat (unless it is a trick of the light), which you don't tend to see on the 50c clipped coins.
not that rare, these do come up for sale regularly.
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12/26/2011 5:33 pm
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 Posted 12/26/2011  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list
I agree with the opinions so far.

Just one question, is it a 1c or 2c?

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 Posted 12/26/2011  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erkle to your friends list
well glad I didnt make an offer
i learn something every day I read this forum, still got a long way to go though
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 Posted 12/26/2011  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list
It is a 1c coin.

Its a pretty nice looking coin.

Erkle you had me excited at $350. <$50 seems to be the consensus. I can see the fishtailing and weaker strike around the clip but not the rim thinning.

The Australianthreepence site is fantastic! It mentions the rim will only show thinning if the rim is formed at the planchet stage. Is the rim of the 1c coin formed at planchet stage or as part of the striking?

Im afraid this coin may have sparked something inside me. Maybe errors can be intersting.
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 Posted 12/26/2011  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list
Very nice coin but it's not worth a great deal,maybe $40/$50 because it is UNC,but you never know,if you put it on ebay you may get more you may get less it depends a lot on who is bhidding on the day.
If it were mine I would be keeping it as value can only go up if you keep the coin in that condition.
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 Posted 12/26/2011  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list
Heres a pic of the reverse. Fully lustrous. I might hold on to it. Its definately something a little different for my collection.

Thanks for you help I've learnt something new and i'll be on the lookout for these now.


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 Posted 12/26/2011  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list
Yes,very good.
If you don't mind telling us,how did you aquire the coin ? inherited or something ?
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12/26/2011 10:05 pm
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 Posted 12/26/2011  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list
This is PMD . I jut made this one
Dead easy when you have a decent Katana
Just let it rest for a while and re patna and bobs your uncle a "RARE COIN" .
I might email the bloke selling the dodgy $1 coin and give him a discount by the dozen.
Seriously tho anyone with access to a decent sharp edge can create these


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12/26/2011 10:51 pm
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 Posted 12/26/2011  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list
Appleangel I found this yesterday whilst sorting through my 1c & 2c coins. I've already pulled out all the 1968 but was looking for the 67 with the missing SD initials. I came across this. I've collected about 19kg of 1&2c coins from different banks around adelaide.
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 Posted 12/27/2011  12:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list
Well thats a really good find then.Congratulations & goodluck finding more interesting coins .
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 Posted 12/27/2011  12:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list

Quote:
It mentions the rim will only show thinning if the rim is formed at the planchet stage. Is the rim of the 1c coin formed at planchet stage or as part of the striking?


Isn't the rim made by the collar ("third die")?

I think rather than call it "thinning", it should be called "metal flow". With the missing area, striking pressure will cause the metal to flow into the hole, just as it flows into the recesses of the die.
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 Posted 12/27/2011  03:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erkle to your friends list
so if it flows wouldnt it be rounded on the clipped edges at some area?
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 Posted 12/27/2011  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
slightly, best viewed from the edge, which is not shown.
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