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 Posted 12/26/2011  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
Unfortunately - no.

I have hit streaks of a thousand coins before with nothing. Then another thousand. Then another. And int he next thousand I would find 20 coins with a lot of interest value. It's just how the game works.

I have been looking since 1983 to find a 1983 doubled die reverse. I have found a dozen doubled die obverses, but never a doubled die reverse. About four years ago I sent a box in trade to a collector in Florida for a better chance of finding a 1983 doubled die reverse. The box he sent to me was rather blank, but the box I sent to him contained a 1983 doubled die reverse. It's just the luck of the draw. I had one in my possession and sent it away.

I have been through more than 800,000 coins in my lifetime searching for die varieties. I have been lucky to pull thousands of them out of that group, and I know how uncommon it is to find them. The part that makes me chuckle are the number of people who think they can go through one change tray and find a diamond - it just doesn't work that way...at all.

As for me having 'knowledge of more die varieties' - that may be true, but I still hold firm to the same advice I give everyone else. Don't try to memorize a long list of what to look for - just look at everything for anything out of normal. That's the key. Know what all the normal coins look like, and know how to pick damaged coins from gems. That's all I do. I run into stuff all the time that I never knew existed.
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 Posted 12/26/2011  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DrDon to your friends list

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Know what all the normal coins look like, and know how to pick damaged coins from gems. That's all I do. I run into stuff all the time that I never knew existed.

I would think that every variety (or at least most) were discovered this way.
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12/26/2011 10:46 pm
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 Posted 12/26/2011  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuj to your friends list
I hear ya, I just went through 25.00 of LMC of all year and only came up with the two MD 1983s I posted and a 2009 Formative Years DDR, to which there are several out there.
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United States
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 Posted 12/26/2011  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list
Ouch! You've scared me off of trading.

I (sadly) am keeping every coin -- even though I have searched through them -- because I get tired and make mistakes. But I have a JAR of coins that I believe have Machine Doubling. I learned that from you! Thank you very much. But for awhile there I just couldn't believe my luck -- all these error coins! LOL

But I have to say in all honesty, that I went about it all wrong. I just had the Red Book and a magnifying glass. Not a bad start, but I had no clue about MD so I thought I had lots of error coins. And I would just pick one coin out of the tin and look it up, and look it over, decide whether or not to put it in a 2X2 or into 'take to the bank' jar.

I should have just started with pennies and sorted them by year and bought a couple more books...but I didn't.

No matter, it's fun and it's a hobby for me. But I am getting smarter about searching through the change. And since I was born in 1955 I'm hoping to find...nah, not gonna happen. LOL
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 Posted 12/26/2011  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list
After reading this thread, I have to add: if you think you know everything, it's time for a new book! :D
I set aside all my old coins from circulation to re-search once new knowledge is mainstreamed.
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 Posted 12/26/2011  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
It's a bit like fossicking for opals at Coober Pedy, only you haven't got the heat and dust to contend with.
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 Posted 12/27/2011  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
Last night as a pay-back to myself for not finding anything in the '8' bag, I went through a couple of rolls-worth of the '3' bag. Coins dated 1963, 1973, 1983, 1993, 2003. I ran into plenty of 1983 cents - but alas - nothing. Nothing at all, save one 1993 doubled column that I tossed back in the pile because of grade.
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 Posted 12/27/2011  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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Don't try to memorize a long list of what to look for - just look at everything for anything out of normal. That's the key. Know what all the normal coins look like, and know how to pick damaged coins from gems.

Exactly. You know what normal is so when you find something that isn't normal you think it over to make sure it isn't damage and is something that can occur during the minting process.


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I would think that every variety (or at least most) were discovered this way.

I would say so too. People who search coins looking for a SPECIFIC error don't find new things because it isn't the thing they are looking for. They are "searching" with blinders on.
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 Posted 12/27/2011  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pman860507 to your friends list
In all of my roll searching I have not found anything. though I have only been though about $60 With $18 left in current box, but I have found a few RPM in wheat cents I have bought from my local dealer.

All in good time is what I keep telling my self.

Then I look at what I have found in my wheats I have searched and it keeps me going. even though I still have 2 big bags of wheats I have to find time for.
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 Posted 12/28/2011  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
I bough a coin off ebay that was supposed to be a RPM, but it wasn't. But after looking over the coin I discovered it was a new DDO that wasn't listed yet on coppercoins.
http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=mds
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 Posted 12/28/2011  3:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ilikeikes to your friends list
Things tend to come in clumps, no matter which denomination I am hunting...nothing..nothing..nothing..then, bam..2, 3, 4 of the same...happened to me in August and found 4 1996 lathe lines in 2 rolls...I just searched a $50.00 box of cents from my local bank..the best I could do was 2 tilted partial collars...the worst recently was a "bullion" buy off ebay..most sellers don't have time to search all rydale-sorted cents, and, I have done pretty well in the past...this time...nothing..there's nothing worse than that sinking feeling you know your probably skunked..but, I could NOT NOT finish searching the leftovers of that $15.00Face-lot, as I kept hitting 69-s one was machine doubled, and gave me a 2-second heart attack...then, back to reality..
Bottom line? I'll NEVER give up the hunt!
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 Posted 12/28/2011  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list

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I'll NEVER give up the hunt!


I know the feeling. I just went through my sister's jar of change -- looking at each and every coin with my magnifying glass. I found a double-headed quarter (machine shop hijinx), a PLASTIC (no kidding) penny, and a 1940 wheatie. When I found that old worn penny I was ridiculously happy.
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 Posted 12/29/2011  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
Oddly enough - just a few days after posting this self-pity-party thread, I finished the baggie full of 1973, 1983, 1993, and 2003 cents.

I found a 1983P-1DO-001. Nice little doubled die obverse. Not the BIG DDR, but I'll take it!
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 Posted 12/30/2011  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadacoinguy to your friends list
As some of you may know I am still quite new to this and have currently searched through close to $100 worth of bank rolls and still searching. I've learned alot over the past few months from the resources offered and coppercoins advice. I've been lucky and have found alot of wheaties and one 1911 in AG condition plus some interesting S wheat pennies but no double dies yet. I have learned to mark my rolls when I go through them which I usually do at least twice to make sure that I don't miss anything and then take them to a different bank. I just went through another $20 in 3 days and haven't found anything interesting but only a few normal wheat pennies. I know that there is nothing easy about finding rare coins but it definately is interesting to search for them and is kind of the thing that keeps me searching. I continue to appreciate any and all help and advice from the experts in this forum and continue to learn daily when reading through the posts. Sorry that you didn't find anything in your last search coppercoins but great news on the new 1983P-1DO-001 find.
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12/30/2011 10:37 am
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 Posted 12/30/2011  12:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DrDon to your friends list

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I found a 1983P-1DO-001. Nice little doubled die obverse. Not the BIG DDR, but I'll take it!

This is what keeps us looking, the little ones.
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