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Wow, your coin is amazing jfransch !
Beautiful, in excellent condition, with an excellent patina and well cleaned from the green plague.
And the overdate is just perfect !
A dream coin for those looking at this kind of coins ! (ok, it's not a 1733, but it's still awesome !)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It is not my coin (I wish) it belongs to TK who posted the pictures. It is a sweet coin.
Hey TK, what are you going to do now that the NGC won't let people mix NGC and PCGS coins on the competitive collection site? I seem to remember you had some very nice coins in PCGS holders.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Nice coin - not much to add - except to state that within MS grades a weak strike will reduce the number. I have an NGC graded 1830's Zs that is an MS 60 because it is one of the weakest strikes I have seen - BUT there is NO circulation wear. MS is a different thing altogether.
Overall I still hate the Sheldon scale because in the end it is subjective.
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 Czech Republic
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It is not my coin (I wish) it belongs to TK who posted the pictures. It is a sweet coin.
Hey TK, what are you going to do now that the NGC won't let people mix NGC and PCGS coins on the competitive collection site? I seem to remember you had some very nice coins in PCGS holders. jfransch, NGC's decision made me take a hard look at what my collecting habits became and I realized that with the registry I started to sacrifice some of my initial principles about the quality and eye appeal of coins in my collection just to fill a registry slot. I started to get upset if one of the coins I liked didn't get the grade I thought it deserved, playing the resubmitting games, etc... In a nutshell, I started to worry about the holder more than the coin in it, which I am pretty ashamed to admit. I think I felt very partial to the registry also due to the fact that I helped put some of those sets together initially and I was happy to see that some of the categories started to get multiple collectors interested in creating their own sets. Having said that, I will not be crossing any of PCGS coins to NGC. I believe that NGC is just trying to do a quick cash grab on the cross-overs, because if they really felt that they are the market standard for World Coin grading, they would offer some kind of a grace period with free or discounted world coin cross-over service to NGC. Instead they took the "our way or the highway" approach and I don't like supporting companies that care little about customer experience. I deleted half of my competitive world sets, keeping just the Type Set and 2 War of Independence sets due to the fact that NGC is still better when it comes to identifying and encapsulating W4I coins. (Yes, even with that 1813 Durango screw-up). I am also keeping my signature set because they are allowing PCGS coins there for the time being. In the meantime, I'm also going to start working on my website where I'll be able to display my collection and have some research notes as I produce them without anyone telling me my coins are not worthy because they are raw or in a slab of a competitor. I'm also going to sell some pieces I compromised on just to fill a slot and focus on the look and feel I appreciate. So, overall, I think this move by NGC resulted in some positive change for me. |
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Czech Republic
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@ Westwood Arms - thank you for the Gilboy reference. I'm hunting for a copy right now and sent a note to guys @ Mexican Coin Company to see if they have one for sale before I debate shelling-out 200 GBP for it from a seller in UK.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The coin is actually a Gilboy M-8-42C, not the much rarer MoMM version. TK I will keep an eye out for you for a Gilboy book
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Czech Republic
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United States
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Realeswatcher, thank you for the clarification on the NGC 1754 coins. 1754MoMM crowns alike is a very very rare coin and seldom, if ever, offered for sale. There is one in the upcoming Cayon auction with a starting bid of 4000 euro and it is not a very high grade example.
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Burning the post-midnight oil also? As jfransch saw, I wrote up a post here on the 1754 topic, but I've moved it instead to the (now resurrected) thread of that specific topic, which I came across when doing some googling on this. https://goccf.com/t/85899---------- TwoKopeiki, regarding a Gilboy book, I came across this on the NGC boards when Googling the 1754 hoard pieces... That would be a very good price, I'd say: boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=4541235#Post4541235 Don't fret about the registry change silliness... As you know full well, the coins will look exactly the same after the witching hour comes and goes. The whole idea is bottom line from their perspective. At first, by allowing PCGS coins in, they were trying a softer, more "feel-good" method. Now, they're going more tangible in their approach... Remember, the whole point of registries from their perspective is to entice the 8-yr-old baseball card collecting kid in all of us, which in turn drives slabbing business... And hey, if it does force you to develop your website some, that's a good thing... |
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Pillar of the Community
Czech Republic
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Haha, thanks, Mathieu. I don't like linking auctions because it feels like spamming on the forums. Plus the 1810 HJ/TH is already gone :)
@ realeswatcher - Thank you for the link. I will send a note to Ponterio once I hear back from the MexCoinCo (want to give him a first shot at my business). I know what you mean about the registry and, just like baseball cards, people with addictive personalities like mine should probably just stay away :)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1801 Posts |
Don't look at your coin as being "gone". Consider it to have a new happy home.
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Czech Republic
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Mathieu, there are a few pieces I'm planning to go after in the Cayon sale. The early pillars you've linked are definitely not at my level of spend, but I really like the look of that 1732 in PCGS AU58. I've saved the pictures and catalog numbers for future reference and will have to settle on having the images and the information if I can't have the coins :)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Sorry for the NGC pop confusion. Here are the current numbers (double checked):
1754 Mo MF KM 104.1 Total: 281
1754/3 Mo MF KM 104.1 Total: 18
1754 Mo MM KM 104.1 Total: 1
1754 Mo MM KM 104.2 Total: 183
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