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AU-53 for the first two, AU-50 for the 1913-S, and EF-45 for the numbers 4 and 5. The 1909 and 1914-S show some reverse hairlines but probably not enough to deserve a "cleaned" label.
Is the 1908 a Denver coin? I think I see a phantom D mintmark.
Very nice little Indians!
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Rest in Peace
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Awesome tribe my friend! I have the same problem, been buying gold like crazy, and the $5 indians are my favorite! I'm going for a full set of circ examples, and I'm about half way there by number, but I have none of the keys...
I would grade the group from high XF to low/mid AU. For upper AU -MS I would expect more luster, but these are really hard to grade from pictures alone. None look cleaned or otherwise problematic. They are very nice coins, and you got some better dates to boot!
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Quote:Those are not little Indians, I expected IHC's LOL...sorry about the "bait and switch". This is as opposed to the bigger $10 Indians I guess. |
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I plan on releasing the PCGS grades in the next day or so. And, I do agree there's not much luster (if any) to speak of on these coins. Also, they are probably amongst the toughest U.S. regular issues to grade.
I really do like this little group, too, and in hand the coins are very satisfactory. These are my first half eagles ever. I will say that the last one was likely dipped, but not too harshly as it has more of a yellowish color and the others all do have a slight orangish tinge to them.
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I'm seeing a lot of strike flatness. My skills don't allow me to grade these accurately, but heavy-looking wear confined to the very point of the shoulder (especially with the '08 and '09) makes me start thinking about strike rather than circulation. I would expect wear to extend further down the wing for the very tips to be so flat.
I won't hazard guesses, but if there's an MS grade in this bunch somewhere I won't be shocked.
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Quote:Those are not little Indians, I expected IHC's I was expecting the same!  However, these coins are not much bigger than a nickel. They are little, at least when compared to eagles and double-eagles. One dollar gold would have been better.  |
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I am thinking AU-53, AU-50, and EF-45 for the last 3. Very nice coins!
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SuperDave: I won't hazard guesses, but if there's an MS grade in this bunch somewhere I won't be shocked. Incuse struck coins are a tough to grade for me too, I failed on many of them during my time at grading classes at the ANA, that is why I would only buy certified examples. I agree I wouldn't be shocked with a MS grade on one of more of these either. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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those are some nice coins prethen!  |
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The grades seem to be some what lower to me than what others have concluded.
1908 AU50 Primarily because of the loss in detail to the head band. The hits on the obverse and reverse, I feel, indicate some circulation.
1909 XF 45 Numerous hits on the obverse and reverse indicates more wear than the 1908. The reverse shows wear on the eagles left leg, chest, neck as well as the wing.
1913, 1914,& 1915 VF 35 these all show extensive wear and hits on the obverse and reverse.
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Well, most of you will be surprised to find out that all of the coins, except the first one, graded XF40, where the first was XF45!
LasVegasLarry - Wow, you have a good eye and very conservative grading ability. However, I must emphasize minor "hits" should not matter when it comes to grading circulated coins. I'm not saying that a coin peppered with major and distracting hits couldn't affect the market grade, more than likely they would cause the coin to go into a non-market acceptable or damaged category. Hits only really matter when talking about MS60 or above. That said, I'm not thrilled to see circulated material with hits all over the place. If a grader is on the fence with a grade, an extra hit, in theory, could force the grade down.
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I evaluate and then subtract two grades from what I first thought and some times I get within two grades.
I was close but no cigar.
1908 AU53
1909 XF40
1912 VF35
The last two I thought would be VF30.
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01/21/2012 11:32 am
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Well that confirmed that I still can't grade this series very well! That is why I only buy a slabbed one!
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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I'll give you face value for each one :)
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A lot of wear on the feathers. XF 45.
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