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Pillar of the Community
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I don't think that anyone who owns a real one (1913 Liberty nickel) is willing to loan it out for the process. Plus I would image that it would be kinda hard to get through the plastic slab, since it's nonconductive. I could loan you my 1913 "copy" that is in my 7070 decoy album (while my real ones are resting in their slabs). Edited by oih82w8
02/23/2012 6:05 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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They do make 1913s  Although I never bought one of them. I knew I'd never run into one to have to worry about it being fake  Here is a list of the V nickel fakes he made/makes: 1913 1885/1886 double headed 1885 1886 1888 1892 1894 1895 1896 1912 P,D,S edited to add picture. How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halveshttps://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2Edited by Earle42
02/23/2012 7:34 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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horrible looking coin and just looking at the date of 1856 makes it even easier to draw a red flag even before noticing anything else
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Bedrock of the Community
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Yes - this lighting really brings out the pitting. But just holding it in hand, with no magnification, it looks pretty good since the flaws are so small.
How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halveshttps://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2 |
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It's a sad state of affairs that numismatics have come to this, really. Where there's a will, there's a way I think for just about every type of rip-off out there.
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Rest in Peace
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Be aware that eventually their fakes will be so good that most dealers will be fooled(some already have been.)Just something else killing numismatics along with TPG greed in slabbing anything, even bullion coins and the lack of grading standards between TPGs. I'm sure few people collect for fun and history anymore. Its all about the Benjamins. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Yeah that is one of his but he must be trying to save his dies. Typically the rims on his fakes are sharper than that.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Be aware that eventually their fakes will be so good that most dealers will be fooled(some already have been.)...I'm sure few people collect for fun and history anymore. I think the success of the TPGs may prove to be their undoing. The unwarranted attention and premiums for slabbed coins will motivate the forgers to make believable slabs--which are much easier/cheaper than squeezing out that last 5% of accuracy on a coin forgery. Unless of course, the TPGs find a foolproof way of verifying their slabbed coins--their photo records are a great step in that direction. I don't think collecting will die; but it will need to get much more informed. Collectors will need to specialize and learn everything about the coins they collect. Sellers on ebay, etc. who push fakes need to be blacklisted-- all of them. Then, consider a future when the hobby will be awash in innumerable fakes. Those dealers who exist then must take an active role in documenting and culling out the fakes that pass through their door--if nothing but to protect their own reputations. All these fakes will need to be stamped "COPY" to remove them from the collector pool--forever.  It's going to be a huge, frustrating mess. |
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Here is the FE Hole Filler in my 7070 Album of Chinese replicas, flat in the details, but it is a struck version, nonmagnetic, excess material around the rims on the left side of the reverse, and the E in states is wrong (clear);   Edited by oih82w8
02/24/2012 6:33 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Here is the FE Hole Filler in my 7070 Album of Chinese replicas Since yours is not pitted, what are the marks which show it to be a fake? I do not know enough about the originals so that yours might fool me. How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halveshttps://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2 |
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what are the marks which show it to be a fake? For starters, the style of the obverse legends are taken from a 1857-8 LL FEC. |
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I'm sure few people collect for fun and history anymore. The Few, The Proud, The Numismatists! (Well we can't all be Marines.) |
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It's a sad state of affairs that numismatics have come to this, really. Where there's a will, there's a way I think for just about every type of rip-off out there. I know there have been several posts condeming fakes but in their defense, if it is a real, obvious one, marked copy or fake then could be used as a filler in an Album. I've been thinking of trying to buy some for just that reason. I don't like that empty slot for the 1894S Dime, 1913 Liberty Head Nickel, etc. Not sure why someone doesn't make some plastic ones for just that reason. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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 And I have no problem with properly marked "fillers" being made. When (if!) I get originals of the fakes, the real ones stay in the safety deposit box and the fakes go with the rest of the inexpensive stuff in the album (with a note at the end of the album so in case something happens to me, my wife will know!). For what little I keep immediately accessible, nothing would really be lost and the thieves would get a rude awakening after they thought they actually got something. How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halveshttps://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2 |
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For what little I keep immediately accessible, nothing would really be lost and the thieves would get a rude awakening after they thought they actually got something.
Now that is a thing to imagine. A crook just breaks into someone's house and steals their coin collection. Then takes it to a bank or pawn shop only to find they just stole a pile of plastic fakes.  |
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Posted 02/23/2012 7:30 pm
