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Canadian Copper Pennies?

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 Posted 04/07/2012  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add willy13 to your friends list
Canadian cents 1996 and earlier are 98% copper, compared to our 95% copper cents.
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 Posted 04/07/2012  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SDcoinguy to your friends list
then why do they sound SO different when you PING them? they sound like zinc...
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 Posted 04/07/2012  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter53562 to your friends list
Years Weight Copper%
1920-1941 3.24 95.50%
1942-1979 3.24 98.00%
1980-1981 2.80 98.00%
1982-1996 2.50 98.00%
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 Posted 04/07/2012  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add willy13 to your friends list

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then why do they sound SO different when you PING them?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr0JaXfKj68
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 Posted 04/07/2012  11:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snek to your friends list
They have changed composition & weight a few times...

1982--1996 2.5 g 19.1 mm, 12-sided 98% copper, 1.75% tin, 0.25% zinc
1980--1981 2.8 g 19.0 mm, round 98% copper, 1.75% tin, 0.25% zinc
1978--1979 3.24 g 19.05 mm, round 98% copper, 1.75% tin, 0.25% zinc
1942--1977 3.24 g 19.05 mm, round 98% copper, 0.5% tin, 1.5% zinc
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 Posted 04/08/2012  08:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SDcoinguy to your friends list
right but why do they feel so much more flimsy compared to lincoln cents? even with more copper content?
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 Posted 04/08/2012  1:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mfhorn to your friends list
Willy13:
Love your explanation.
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 Posted 04/08/2012  2:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrider to your friends list
While I don't have a lot of the Canadian coppers I do seperate them down by the image of the queen on the face (from young to old).
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 Posted 04/08/2012  7:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ram96 to your friends list
May you should start filling Canadian penny folder's since they are dropping them soon.
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 Posted 04/08/2012  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add M0nks to your friends list
yea the ones made after 1997 feel like cheap tokens I only used to save the ones before 1982 guess I was so used to the Lincoln Cent I just went with the same yrs haha
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 Posted 04/11/2012  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SDcoinguy to your friends list
so no one can explain why they ping differently? makes me think they arent really copper?
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Seriously? "Aren't really copper?" Because "pinging them" is an accepted form of accurate compositional analysis? Perhaps they were struck under different pressure?

Sheesh - perhaps I should put a few under the XRF in my lab at work, and prove to you that Canadian 1-cent coins are what snek says they are (and published in the literature). Then, if still you don't believe it, well then you can argue with the laws of physics....
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 Posted 04/11/2012  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list
SPP,
come on, tell the truth, you have NOT actually been x-raying all those coins sent to you...
you've just been bouncing them off the kitchen table now haven't you
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 Posted 04/11/2012  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
The sound a coin makes when, er, "pinged", is generated by the coin flexing and vibrating back and forth. A coin's ability to do this depends on a multitude of interdependent variables - diameter, thickness, weight, edge shape, composition, microcrystalline structure... in short, Canadian and American 1 cent coins sound different because they are different, in most of the factors I've just mentioned.

But in terms of your original question...

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i have them sitting around and am wondering if I can just roll them in with my LMC coppers....

I suppose it all depends on what you're rolling the coins for. If they're "bullion rolls", where weight and consistency of metal composition is important, then no, don't include them, because their composition and weight are not the same. If you're rolling them up for sale, then no again; finding lots of Canadian coins will probably make your customers mad.
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 Posted 04/11/2012  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bibd to your friends list
Reading this thread has started to make me wonder... do pre-82 Lincolns really contain any Copper?

Just kidding... SDcoinguy, which dates are you pinging that sound quite different? As was pointed out, the 82-96 series is a very different weight/shape. Admittedly, these are pretty flimsy looking/feeling, but still 98%.

Also, in (mild) defense of our current 1997 to present "token-like" cents, the zinc plancets we use are from the same batch as the U.S. mint (so I have heard... I may stand corrected). And I think our copper-plated steel cents make for a bit nicer finish than the zinc ones. It's hard to tell by sight alone that they are not copper.

One more light-hearted jab: I tried "pinging" the statue of Liberty when I visited NYC, but it just went "thud".
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