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Dealer Junk Boxes Vs. Ebay "Unsearched" Lots Of World Coins.

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Australia
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 Posted 04/12/2012  02:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
I would rather have the fun searching through dealer junk boxes.
You only end up buying the coins you want, rather than the whole lot.

You get to keep that part of the catch you want and throw the rest back, much like fishing.

"One man's meat is another man's poisson".
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Australia
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 Posted 04/12/2012  02:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nicwinner to your friends list
quote sel691

i donnot think can find some rare pieces from dealership as they picked up rare one already.
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04/12/2012 02:32 am
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France
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 Posted 04/12/2012  03:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MathieuMa to your friends list
nicwinner : that's not necessarily true, dealers are usually specialized in some types / countries, you can still find good stuffs in their junk.
Sure, any coin looking pretty old will have been checked - but one can still find rarities in more modern coins (your dealer won't look for special dates / overdates / particular types for all the coins he get and sort to junk for example)
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Australia
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 Posted 04/12/2012  04:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Some pieces in my collection are worth thousands, but a great number of the are less than $10 each. The particular dealer I go to has $1, $2, $5 $10, & $20 junk bins.

Recently, I picked up some nice Roman bronze cheapies, a Scottish Bawbee and a Bodle, and a small range of European 17th and 18th century minor silver and billon coins, a Charles 11 farthing, and a medieval Indian Gupta silver drachm.

All interesting stuff for a World collection: all centuries all cultures, ancient to modern.
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 Posted 04/12/2012  04:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list
And then again - it depends on what counts as "rare"
I've been able to find a 2 Rentenpfennig coin (1923-J for the record) worth $20 (or so a collector I asked said) in a dealer's 20 rubles (about $0.70) bin. Since then I've been taking all Rentenpfennigs I've came across in junk bins, and while I hadn't been able to strike it so rich anymore, all of them were worth more than what I paid.
Then again, we don't have junk silver over here, it's all just various world coins, and while I did hit a few silver pieces in under-dollar bins they tended to not even look silver (I only bought them for the age: one in particular was from 1820, the date being almost the only thing still visible).

P.S. I've also never bought anything from ebay, and but one coin from our local version (a dateless Matron cent). So don't have anything to compare with
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 Posted 04/12/2012  04:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MathieuMa to your friends list
Exactly, that kind of collection is not all about price or rarity (although it's still a pleasure to own rare or expensive coins)
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 Posted 04/12/2012  09:28 am  Show Profile   Check wheatiefan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add wheatiefan to your friends list
The possibility and probability that you will be disappointed from an ebay purchase are very high.

You have much lower chances of being disappointed from a junk bin as you don't walk away with anything you don't choose. The downside is there is a much smaller selection.
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 Posted 04/12/2012  3:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ZiggyZ to your friends list
It depends on how broadly you are collecting. If you want any coin you don't have, the lots are great. If you're more selective, I'd go for the junk bins. Also, it sounds like you were purchasing one pound at a time from ebay, which I would not recommend, as the shipping charges just kill you. If you buy a larger lot you can get your price down to about half what you paid.
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 Posted 04/14/2012  3:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eurocoin to your friends list
I get majority of new coins from local " ebay" and those bins (usually 4-5 pcs for euro). At least in our local internet auction it is very easy to get "unsearched" lot at a reasonably price (my max bid is normally 10 euro/kilo incl. shipping). The quality has been good; I have found silver, scarce dates/mintmarks, exchengeable coins and coins from harder countries. Same for dealer's bins. I think the main reason for good succes is high frequency in checking what's available on internet and bins. Of course it is important to look pics well and analyse what kind of coins there are.
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 Posted 04/15/2012  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WVUcoins to your friends list
I am trying to collect one of everything so for me buying lots is the way to go. At least for right now. I have had very good look buying lots from my local dealer. He lets me pick which countries I want or which region of the world. When I bought from ebay quit often it seemed like the same coins being recycled. From my local coin shop it has been a much wider range of coins.

OP what type of world coins are you looking for?
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 Posted 04/15/2012  5:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list
I don't have the luxury of having a dealer nearby.
The closest dealers to me are in Perth and I only go to Perth to either catch a plane or get off one for work, So ebay and CCF are my only options.
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 Posted 04/15/2012  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list
Bought pounds on ebay that have been horrible and others fantastic, for variety.
Rare or silver, forget it. (like one silver per 1,000)
Better to pay more for "lot of 20" where you can see each coin.
The junk bins might be better fishing, but I prefer searching in my living room rather making the trip to the coin shop.

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Australia
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 Posted 04/15/2012  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
I have built probably what is the World's largest collection of machine struck square coins from a dealer's junk bin. About 90 different types and counting! Most of them were accumulated 20+ years ago. Lots of fun, very little money spent.
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 Posted 04/15/2012  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Imasnore to your friends list
I like idea of dealermjunk boxes where you take what you want and leave the rest...this thread motivates me. I think I will go snooping.
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 Posted 04/17/2012  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snowman to your friends list
My local coin shops sells unsearched lots on ebay. He says that he doesn't have time to search the lots and, judging by the volume that he takes in, I believe him. Unfortunately he also gets a lot of his poundage from tollbooth rejects, so there is a lot of duplication. In particular, it appears that Dominican Republic 25 centavos are accepted as quarters at tollbooths, because his bulk lots have an abundance of them.

On the other hand, his junk bin always has some good deals if you are willing to look. The coins are all in 2x2 flips and often has quite a few proofs (something that is rare in ebay bulk lots). It just takes time to search through everything.
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