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Valued Member
 Pakistan
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Finally settled on an exchange with the guy. Unfortunately, he is the one who wants ME to send first, and I can't REALLY blame him. I've been on numista for just 2 weeks, and have only made one other trade (that hasn't come through yet), while he's been on for at 5 months, and seems to have made 100 trades at least, with all 5 star ratings.... not that I know how valid that is. Then he brought up "I've had bad experiences from Pakistan, Bangladesh and India.... :(
I dunno...I guess I'll go through with it.
What is the best way to pack them up? I've currently wrapped each coin (there are 11) separately in a piece of paper, put them in an A4 envelope, and folded the envelope in half.
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Valued Member
Finland
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Babar - don't worry about bad country expectations. All you can do is to do your duty well and they will trust you as a person in the future. What comes to packing issue - I would just ensure that coins will hold their positions and wont make any noise. What about the security of Pakistani and the other country's postal services? Do you need your envelope to be registered?
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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If it is only face value circulating coins then what sort of value are we talking here? If the value is not very much then just go for it.
Ive only ever traded once with someone outside Australia and that was with a member here and everything went great. In the process of organising another.
Its easy to assume everyone on the internet is devious but that just isn't true. Having said that its still a risk but at the end of the day if its only circulation coins and not $200 key dates then go for it.
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Valued Member
Pakistan
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At first it was my understanding that coins here can only be sent via registered mail. Yesterday I learnt that coins and currency are absolutely not allowed to be sent via post. I told this to the guy who I was exchanging with, and he basically said "if they ask, tell them it is Pakistani souvenirs", so I sent them anyhow, and as far as my end goes (giving it to the post office, having it weighed and registered) it went fine. To be totally honest, Pakistan post is really horrible  . Even with stuff like postcards (which I don't send registered), it is like a 50% chance that it never reaches the recipient. Aside from that, the thing I'm worried about is if at some point they x-ray the packages and actively remove it and confiscate it if it has coins in it. Unfortunately, that is not the sort of thing you can ask someone at the post office |
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Australia
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Sending currency is also not permitted in Australia by Auspost. If I have to register something for overseas I write numismatic collectible as the description. The women behind the counter haven't got a clue what it is.
Edited by enworb
05/15/2012 02:41 am
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United States
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What is the best way to pack them up? I've currently wrapped each coin (there are 11) separately in a piece of paper, put them in an A4 envelope, and folded the envelope in half. Wrap them up in paper, then place them between two pieces of cardboard with tape around the edges. After you put it in an envelope, it also helps to cover the envelope in clear tape to reinforce it. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Wrap them up in paper, then place them between two pieces of cardboard with tape around the edges. After you put it in an envelope, it also helps to cover the envelope in clear tape to reinforce it. Partially a good idea but not paper. Some papers can be made of almost anything and some may mess up coins. Place coins in 2x2's first, then sandwich between two pieces of cardboard and tape all ends. Wrap this in Aluminum foil to prevent any Xray attempt. Of course that would also make someone suspecious but worth a try. Never say you sending coinage. If asked say photographs of your family. |
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Valued Member
Pakistan
207 Posts |
I finally did 2 swaps through numista, and I got the first swap's coins a week ago. Something very exhilarating about getting stuff in the mail  . Unfortunately the guy I am trading with hasn't gotten my coins yet...I hope there are no problems. I had sent those before I got the advice in here, so they were just free inside the envelope (not wrapped or taped or anything). The second guy (the one who said that he wanted to receive my coins first before he sent his own) finally got my coins today, and said he'd send off his now. He even gave me a good rating, which should be helpful in future trades. I'm finally on a roll! |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Still be carefull not to get involved with any expensive coins. You really don't know who your dealing with.
I don't know if your familiar with a game called pool. Sort of like Billiards. People that play this sometimes make money doing this by starting out playing badly. This makes the opponent start betting higher and higher and eventually the so called bad player starts really playing great and takes all the money. The moral of this story is the other person your dealing with could well be playing a similar game with coins. All starts out well but ends up you sending a valuable coin and the other person vanishes.
OR hopefully all is well and you start a great coin friend.
Like I mentioned previously, there is not much you could do it all goes wrong.
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Valued Member
Pakistan
207 Posts |
I've got the results of one trade so far, and another (according to registered mail) is almost here, so hopefully this is doable, and that makes me happy.
I alluded to this slightly in my previous post, but after dealing with a couple more prospective swappers, I've run into a variety of trading mentalities, so I was curious, and thought I'd find some clarity on the issue here.
What do you look for when balancing the coins you are giving for the ones you will be receiving?
As I said before, I am mostly interested in coins in circulation from different countries- stuff involving ancient coins, or silver and gold content, or rarity doesn't usually enter into the equation. I'm new to this, so I was just summing up the total weight of my coins, and the total value of my coins, and trying to make them almost equal to the weight and value of the coins of the person I was trading with.
Is this the standard way? How do you do it?
I've encountered some people who, on their list of coins for exchange, had a little note that said "Will only exchange for 2 coins" or "Will only exchange for 3 coins", which struck me as a little odd...while I somewhat understand that for proofs, what if the coin I was exchanging was equally valuable? Another guy, after I had picked a couple of coins from his collection to match the value of the coins he had picked mine, excluded one of the ones I picked, because, he said "I had to pay more for this coin".
Is there some standard operating procedure I am missing out on? How is this stuff usually done?
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Bedrock of the Community
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What do you look for when balancing the coins you are giving for the ones you will be receiving? Really its personal preference. Some people may want to get the same number of coins as they are sending. Personally I would only be interested in having equal value. I wouldnt have a problem trading 5 coins worth 100 dollars for 1 coin worth 100 dollars. I dont really see the point in getting back the same number of coins if the coins you are trading are more valuable just to say you have the same number of coins. But again its all what YOU want to do. |
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Valued Member
Pakistan
207 Posts |
I've progressed a bit since last time, having done a dozen or two swaps. But now I've got some more swapping woes, and I guess I just wanted to rant a bit.
Everything is going fine and dandy, I choose some coins from the other guy's list, they choose some from me, we haggle, add, remove, etc. The other guy has a good feedback, so I'm not too worried about them trying to swindle me or anything.
Finally, everything is decided, addresses have been swapped, and then....silence.
Lots of silence. I usually send messages like "I'll be sure to head out to the post office to mail your coins this week, hope you are able to as well, hint, hint", and stuff like that, I get no response. Then I start wondering if they actually are going to send anything, then a week passes, and I look like a lying fool. Finally I have to send the coins, and a week or so after that I get a message "I sent them as well".
WHY CAN'T THEY EVER SEND FIRST?!
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11/05/2012 10:43 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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WHY CAN'T THEY EVER SEND FIRST?! 1. Either setting you up for a big, nothing in return mess 2. They don't know you and don't trust people from certain countries 3. If they don't like what you send, you would get nothing 4. Why should they if you do? 5. This way they have nothing to loose but you do. |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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WHY CAN'T THEY EVER SEND FIRST?! i think you answered your own question. Quote:
To be totally honest, Pakistan post is really horrible |
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Valued Member
Pakistan
207 Posts |
Hahahaha...but THEY don't know that!
And I don't mean they expect to receive their coins first, I mean, they want me to inform them that I have posted their coins first (along with a tracking ID, usually), before they go and post my coins.
And thank god, although the postal service here is headache-inducingly slow, I've yet to lose a package I sent (although one got sent as regular mail by mistake after I paid for registered mail).
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11/05/2012 12:08 pm
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