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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Cheetah, I can well appreciate the valid points you make. Yet, in my old age, I'm getting very frustrated with the so-called "tail wagging the dog" philosophy and practice that I'm seeing everywhere, including my favorite pastime; this, all for the sake of political correctness. In time, I fully expect that ebay will ban the "good luck" swastikas, too. I'm surprised that they haven't yet banned the 1917 Type I SLQ's as yet! you know, what I fondly refer to as the Janet Jackson variety ...
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Pillar of the Community
1119 Posts |
Allowed Stamps, letters, and envelopes displaying Nazi postmarks Currency issued by the Nazi German government, including military scripts Items that have a swastika that are not related to Nazi Germany (such as good luck charms, Native American blankets, Buddhist sculptures) Replica or novelty stamps or currency of Nazi Germany (must comply with the currency and stamp policies) even if they contain images of swastikas or German leaders.
funny I thought fakes - replicas couldnt be sold.
and what about all the other countries that have committed atrocities to other nations? there are a few of em, are all the items they used etc to be banned? and not wanting to upset anyone, but some of the pics with captions of the most recent conflicts, or some of the things some are accused of are just as bad. or is it ok to be like that if you think your in the right? not wanting to argue this, just my thoughts on what could be double standards.
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Moderator
 United States
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Pillar of the Community
Germany
1238 Posts |
Quote:Folks -- remember that ebay is multinational. There are countries in Europe that outright ban any and all Nazi relics, including coinages. I believe ebay's policy is a good-faith attempt to find a middle-ground to address the legal variances in different countries. Except that their "good-faith attempt" does not actually work as far as I can tell. Fortunately much of what ebay apparently bans can be had from dealers around here (France, Germany, Netherlands) ... Christian
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Locked
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Quote:Fortunately much of what ebay apparently bans can be had from dealers around here (France, Germany, Netherlands) ... Which is of no concern to ebay. ebay isn't trying or required to clean up entire countries, just their little corner of it so they can keep peace and keep us selling there.
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Pillar of the Community
Germany
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Sure. I was merely trying to point out that ebay's rules are ebay's rules, not anybody else's. I remember that, a while ago, I asked a German seller at ma-shops.de why he would cut the swastika out of his images. Well, he replied that he uses some of those images at ebay too, and ebay requires him to do that ... Christian
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Pillar of the Community
United States
627 Posts |
I'm confused: The last rule under not allowed is "Listings where images are edited or cropped to try to hide Nazi markings or insignia"
Thus, what the seller is doing is against rules -- quite contrary to his statement that he is trying to function "within" the rules.
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Pillar of the Community
Germany
1238 Posts |
Please note that I used the past tense. :) I don't use ebay any more, and my coins I buy elsewhere. My question, and the ma-shops seller's answer, about this were a while ago; I just found it strange then that in some images he would "cut the swastika out" while in others he would not, that is why I asked him. What ebay allows these days, and what it won't allow, with regard to such "markings", is ebay's business. Christian
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
598 Posts |
I have quite a few items from the Finnish Air Force. I will still add to my collection from time to time when ebay items come up. The Finnish Air Defence still continues to use the swastika. I realize some find this offensive, but it is part of my history. I will continue to collect.... perhaps more quietly, from now on. With regards to Nazi items... well, the Nazi's were a big part of the reason for the Finnish Air Defence. I 'spose it's just another reason to keep the lid on (hush hush) my collecting. Some insignias & info; Finland's Air Defence... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wester...20th_century
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
852 Posts |
Ebays policies are a complete joke. I read their policy on offensive material and it took me less than 30 seconds to find dozens of listings that are far more offensive than swastikas (for example I typed "islamic jewellry sword" and found at least 10 listings for them, with the Arabic death threat to kill all infidels clearly legible). Perhaps the censors at ebay cannot be bothered to read Arabic inscriptions but its the vile sort of stuff that is still recited when victims have their throats slit by Al qaeda types. Also had no trouble finding listings for vintage  etc.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
36880 Posts |
I agree with you nealeffendi. ebay is restricting the "easy" items in the name of political correctness. These items are a piece of history, banning them does not change that history.
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Valued Member
Canada
360 Posts |
Nazi era coins/exonumia (1933-1945) appear to be banned on ebay, I have had them removed by ebay. I could not illustrate anything with a swastika on it (coins etc). I had listed partials, however, eventually I sold these coins locally in a bulk lot to be rid of them as I did not wish to list them and pay ebay anything not even a dime for 'Ostrich Mentality' ( ebay has adopted the 'Ostrich Mentality' ... if I do not see it, it can not hurt me). Vote with your dollars (in this case a dime).
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Pillar of the Community
921 Posts |
Banning does not change the history, but I guess until ebay changes their rules, its the way it is... Alot of pics/items on ebay should be 1/2 covered or even banned then.
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Valued Member
United States
402 Posts |
I see lots of Third Reich coins being sold on ebay and they all have swastikas on them. I also deal in 1/144 military armor and a third of the stuff that's sold have swastikas on them also. I will say that no more military stuff being made will carry a swastika because the manufacturer will have to pay a fee to the German government if it does. That rule went into effect about 2 years ago. Has pretty well ruined the military modeling groups. My opinion edgman   
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Valued Member
United States
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Hmm, just bought my 1st Nazi-era (1934) coin and no mention of any ebay prohibitiveness on such articles. No Hitler profile, yet one small swastika on the 2 mark coin.
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