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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I voted the first choice....
I still see a steady climb up to late summer for PM's, which translates to a good time to get ready for a big drop an serious buying window, lol....
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4008 Posts |
Greece by itself will probably not have a huge impact on PM prices, although there likely will be some additional buying in Europe. My thought is that Greece will be the fuse that then detonates Italy and Spain. The EU will survive the exit of the smaller members but not the exit or collapse of Italy or Spain. Either of these two countries are too big to bail, so present quite a financial challenge to the EU, ECB, and the IMF. Clearly, they will need US and Chinese help to resolve this situation but who knows if they will get it.
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Valued Member
Canada
62 Posts |
My guess. I very short term drop, then skyrocket as they realize the Euro is doomed (as is every other fiat currency).
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
36880 Posts |
Prices will mostly likely fall for paper silver and gold. As prices fall, premiums for physical coins and bars will go up or availability will decrease as dealers hold back on selling what they have. Long term nothing can hold prices down with the amount of debt in the world and no way to pay it off other than inflate or issue and new type of currency or digital money.
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Valued Member
United States
272 Posts |
I don't see Greece alone making a big impact.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
808 Posts |
Quote: I don't see Greece alone making a big impact. A Greece exit will have more of an impact than you think. First, a lot of goodwill was burned up by Greece's failure to meet it's rescue obligations. This will likely translate into even more severe and less flexible austerity requirements for the remaining PIgS. Second, several news sources have reported that Moody's will likely reevaluate it's ratings on sovereign debt for the entire Euro zone, with downgrades very likely for member countries. Greece may be hurting, but the pain is about to be spread around the rest of Europe very very soon.
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Valued Member
United States
272 Posts |
Greece may be the start of events which could end up driving up PMs, but their exit alone will not cause cause this. It could have a trickle down effect though.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1454 Posts |
A lot of it might depend on "how" Greece leaves the EU. I can envision monetary aid that hadn't been available suddenly coming on line from a variety of different sources that few could anticipate. It bears remembering that the loans Greece received in the past weren't there to bail out the government as much as they were to save the banking sector- due to systemic risk, or so they say. If Greece were to exit the EU but still pay lip service to austerity via whatever government happens to be in power when all this goes down, perhaps the IMF or even the FED would feel obligated to step in an save its Mediterranean banker friends. Some wealthy Middle Eastern country wanting to become a major player from the ground up in Greco affairs, perhaps? Or China or Russia, or even Europe, all over again. It all depends on how a Greek default affects other central banks and how much some countries fear widespread bank runs, potential credit downgrades from doing business with Greek banks, spreading contagion, and a possible double-dip recession or stock market collapse, among other nasty things. I'm spit-balling here, but who'd have ever guessed that Lehman Bros. would have had such an impact on world markets back in the fall of 2008? Not the majority of US economists or government advisors, that's for sure.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
863 Posts |
I think PMS will go up. any financial crisis will cause a rise in PM prices. we have no idea about any hidden ties that our banks have with greeces and the euro. they are there and a euro crisis will have a major effect on the US.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
36880 Posts |
Agreed, once the dust settles from Greece leaving the EU, metals will go up. The paper metals traders will panic first though and drive prices down so that they can cover other losses. This has already happened a couple times.
I think what is coming is a separation between paper commodity prices and actual physical metal. You will see much higher premiums for coins and bars over the spot price.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Pillar of the Community
United States
808 Posts |
Looks like Greece has finally formed a "pro-bailout" parliamentary majority that's willing to play ball with German plans. Unless this government, too, falls apart and Euro exit fears reemerge, gold's brief rally may retreat into another buying opportunity lasting though mid-summer.
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Valued Member
Australia
216 Posts |
If Greece exits the Euro then I think prices will go up a lot. Why you ask. Well at present everyone is watching Greece, once that is resolved one way or the other, the attention of "investors" will shift elsewhere. I'm thinking Spain and Italy. If those two get the attention that Greece is now, then the whole EU will fall. Lehman Bros will look like a speed bump beside the Alps in comparison.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
36880 Posts |
Nothing makes sense anymore regarding metals prices, I believe they are totally manipulated. Greece leaving the EU should be bullish for metals as inflation will skyrocket in Greece. Greece staying in the EU and getting more funny money bailouts should be bullish for metals, more inflation of the Euro. The thing to remember is any time the printing presses run inflation is the result. Spain, Italy, France, Ireland, Portugal are all standing there waiting for their turn at the bailout trough. Germany is going to say enough very soon.
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Valued Member
Australia
145 Posts |
In theory,
Gold and silver should go up, but will go down with it euro for a while.Once euro is gone there will be a balance. We see new highs? gold 2200+ oz (aus) silver $65-8o oz (aus)
If you look at which nation has most gold and silver reserves,you'll see the IMF seems to be in 3rd place, the same people paying off nations debts in gold and silver reserves leave the nation, broke and with nothing to back it.
since when did the IMF become a nation? In 50 to 100 years no person in the general public will own much of what we have today.
I think the U.S.A is ready to hand over some more after July, in the long run it can only go up in price but as the $ suffers how can you not take a chance on gold and silver,its up down , levels out higher every 30 years or so to adjust no updated economy,just have to hold on to it for at least another 5-10 years you might be able to retire.
It's going to hit like the 2008 crash, only this time there is no answers,but when wall st have hands on there head's,and I'll have balloons out as is that when physical gold and silver, show there true colours,paper stocks are manipulated.
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