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Moderator
 Australia
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Quote: I'm thinking, for Cyrillic, the words for gold, silver, change [as contrasted to paper money]
The actual numbers are the same - 1, 2 ,3 Russian coins from the early 1700s used the traditional Cyrillic numerals to denote the date. Peter the Great abolished them as part of his modernization campaign. This alphanumeric code is based on the Greek numeral system devised in ancient times and occasionally used to denote dates and denominations on ancient Greek coins.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
Thailand
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Here are links for fairly comprehensive guides for the following numerals:
Arabic http://(131231) Not Allowed - Auto-Removed /Inst-ID/Arabic.htm Chinese http://(131231) Not Allowed - Auto-Removed /countries/Chinese.htm Hebrew http://(131231) Not Allowed - Auto-Removed /countries/Israeli.htm Japanese http://(131231) Not Allowed - Auto-Removed /countries/Japan.php Thai http://(131231) Not Allowed - Auto-Removed /countries/Thai.htm
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I recently decided it was about time I learnt some of these numbering systems. Within a week I was able to read and write Japanese, Arabic and Thai numbers. It certainly makes collecting coins from these countries a whole lot less scary. Steve   
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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it would be nice to set up an excel file with each language (aribic, chinese, etc) and the english version side by side. That would be a very helpful tool for those of us who do not know much about the number systems of other countries yet. so it could be set up like this
English Arabic Chinese ETC ETC 1 - - - - 2 - - - -
and maybe even add those good tips like how the arabic numbers can be written either way. thanks for the lesson!
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
2490 Posts |
Or you can just look in SCWC: 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1088 Posts |
ahh nevermind. sorry I have two copies of the 2010 edition that I got from a second hand book store. the 1901-2000 edition had that page missing. when I looked in the 2001-2010 edition, I found that page. thanks for the tip... sorry for the rediculous suggestion...since it already existed.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2605 Posts |
Throughout last year once a week I went to my son's second grade and did various "Math" activities with the kids. One day I dedicated dating world coins. I gave the handouts with different numerals, explained the differences in calendars, and then we dated some Thai, Japanese, Arabic, Ottoman Turkish,(old) Georgian, and some European (dated in Roman numerals) coins. Everybody had fun.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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To IBGolden, I can no longer edit the original post. Sorry.
To svslav, Mea culpa! I did not know that earlier coins used an older system. Peter the Great was keen on changing Russia into a Western European nation. I did not know that this was one of his ideas. The design and layout of St. Petersburg was done deliberately to convince the west that Russia was not a backward country. Your math project, dating coins in non-western numerals, was a brilliant one. I salute you!
To triggersmob, Would you consider sending me a PM outlining how you learned these number systems? "Within a week I was able to read and write Japanese, Arabic and Thai numbers. It certainly makes collecting coins from these countries a whole lot less scary." To make coins "less scary" is at the heart of my poor lesson. There are many lists of these numbers. But how does one learn them? Please share.
To all: "Give a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man how to fish, he eats for a lifetime."
My agenda is to teach collectors how to date coins in a different system. Is this a worthy goal?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1088 Posts |
i think you have a worthy goal
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
3486 Posts |
Thanks, stud722, I joined this group for the long haul, and I struggle to find the best ways in which to serve. If it be to make reading inscriptions on coins less strange then so be it.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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the tip that the date may be written either way was not known to me. helped me out. there are some smaller nations, like omen, that I had trouble with
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Quote: To triggersmob, Would you consider sending me a PM outlining how you learned these number systems? Matthew, it wasn't difficult. It's just a matter of practise. I used the site thet Aiglet7 posted earlier in this thread.. http://apps.creounity.com/time_mach....php&lang=enJust start with one number system and when you have that down pat, then move onto the next. Steve   
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2605 Posts |
My "textbook" was the Krause.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
3486 Posts |
Steve, The site that you used and recommended is quite comprehensive. But if I were a collector of countries that used these systems I would want to know them by heart. Sometimes you can see a coin and not have a computer handy. After looking at the Thai numbers it became evident to me which of the digits were similar. Much like the English "E" and "F", "O" and "Q" and "B" and "P", some of the digits were very much the same. The number "3", on the other hand, is quite easy to remember as it is the number "3" tipped over 90 degrees.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Like I said, it's just a matter of practise, the same way you learned our numbers. Steve   
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