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Arabic Numbers For Collectors

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 Posted 08/01/2012  02:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list

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I'm thinking, for Cyrillic, the words for gold, silver, change [as contrasted
to paper money]

The actual numbers are the same - 1, 2 ,3

Russian coins from the early 1700s used the traditional Cyrillic numerals to denote the date. Peter the Great abolished them as part of his modernization campaign. This alphanumeric code is based on the Greek numeral system devised in ancient times and occasionally used to denote dates and denominations on ancient Greek coins.
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 Posted 08/01/2012  04:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thai-vic to your friends list
Here are links for fairly comprehensive guides for the following numerals:

Arabic
http://(131231) Not Allowed - Auto-Removed /Inst-ID/Arabic.htm
Chinese
http://(131231) Not Allowed - Auto-Removed /countries/Chinese.htm
Hebrew
http://(131231) Not Allowed - Auto-Removed /countries/Israeli.htm
Japanese
http://(131231) Not Allowed - Auto-Removed /countries/Japan.php
Thai
http://(131231) Not Allowed - Auto-Removed /countries/Thai.htm
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 Posted 08/01/2012  06:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add triggersmob to your friends list
I recently decided it was about time I learnt some of these numbering systems. Within a week I was able to read and write Japanese, Arabic and Thai numbers. It certainly makes collecting coins from these countries a whole lot less scary.

Steve
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 Posted 08/01/2012  2:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stud722 to your friends list
it would be nice to set up an excel file with each language (aribic, chinese, etc) and the english version side by side. That would be a very helpful tool for those of us who do not know much about the number systems of other countries yet. so it could be set up like this

English Arabic Chinese ETC ETC
1 - - - -
2 - - - -

and maybe even add those good tips like how the arabic numbers can be written either way. thanks for the lesson!

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 Posted 08/01/2012  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alganbagerap to your friends list
Or you can just look in SCWC:



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 Posted 08/01/2012  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stud722 to your friends list
ahh nevermind. sorry I have two copies of the 2010 edition that I got from a second hand book store. the 1901-2000 edition had that page missing. when I looked in the 2001-2010 edition, I found that page. thanks for the tip... sorry for the rediculous suggestion...since it already existed.
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 Posted 08/01/2012  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list
Throughout last year once a week I went to my son's second grade and did various "Math" activities with the kids. One day I dedicated dating world coins. I gave the handouts with different numerals, explained the differences in calendars, and then we dated some Thai, Japanese, Arabic, Ottoman Turkish,(old) Georgian, and some European (dated in Roman numerals) coins. Everybody had fun.
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 Posted 08/02/2012  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list
To IBGolden,
I can no longer edit the original post. Sorry.

To svslav,
Mea culpa! I did not know that earlier coins used an older system. Peter the Great
was keen on changing Russia into a Western European nation. I did not know that this was
one of his ideas. The design and layout of St. Petersburg was done deliberately to convince the west that
Russia was not a backward country.
Your math project, dating coins in non-western numerals, was a brilliant one. I salute you!

To triggersmob,
Would you consider sending me a PM outlining how you learned these number systems?
"Within a week I was able to read and write Japanese, Arabic and Thai numbers. It certainly makes collecting coins from these countries a whole lot less scary."
To make coins "less scary" is at the heart of my poor lesson. There are many lists of these numbers.
But how does one learn them? Please share.

To all:
"Give a man a fish, he eats for a day.
Teach a man how to fish, he eats for a lifetime."

My agenda is to teach collectors how to date coins in a different system.
Is this a worthy goal?


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 Posted 08/02/2012  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stud722 to your friends list
i think you have a worthy goal
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 Posted 08/02/2012  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list
Thanks, stud722,
I joined this group for the long haul, and I struggle to find the best ways
in which to serve.
If it be to make reading inscriptions on coins less strange then so be it.
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 Posted 08/02/2012  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stud722 to your friends list
the tip that the date may be written either way was not known to me. helped me out. there are some smaller nations, like omen, that I had trouble with
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 Posted 08/03/2012  06:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add triggersmob to your friends list

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To triggersmob,
Would you consider sending me a PM outlining how you learned these number systems?


Matthew, it wasn't difficult. It's just a matter of practise.
I used the site thet Aiglet7 posted earlier in this thread..
http://apps.creounity.com/time_mach....php&lang=en

Just start with one number system and when you have that down pat, then move onto the next.

Steve
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 Posted 08/03/2012  10:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list
My "textbook" was the Krause.
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 Posted 08/04/2012  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list
Steve,
The site that you used and recommended is quite comprehensive.
But if I were a collector of countries that used these systems I would want
to know them by heart.
Sometimes you can see a coin and not have a computer handy.
After looking at the Thai numbers it became evident to me which of the digits
were similar. Much like the English "E" and "F", "O" and "Q" and "B" and "P", some
of the digits were very much the same. The number "3", on the other hand, is quite
easy to remember as it is the number "3" tipped over 90 degrees.
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 Posted 08/05/2012  04:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add triggersmob to your friends list
Like I said, it's just a matter of practise, the
same way you learned our numbers.

Steve
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