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 Posted 09/15/2012  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broseph to your friends list
One way or another, it's a nice ring. You should have it appraised and post what the value is. I'm curious anyway :P
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 Posted 09/15/2012  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list
I thought it was pink cubic zirconia on a plated ring too but I didn't want to be the bearer of bad news.

Its pretty rare to find diamonds in anything not gold or platinum (occassionally I had seen diamonds in silver as handmade peices for people who display very allergic reactions with impure metals)

Diamonds can be coloured but of course naturally occuring coloured diamonds are big money. Cubics are cheap and hard to distinguish the difference if not used to looking at them. With white stones the eye can detect the splitting effect a cubic has, you detect a spectrum in it that you don't see with a diamond and the absense of any inclusions under magnification is also a give away. A diamond tester measures the refractive properties of stones by firing in a laser which can easily sort out CZ from Diamond.

Of course there is moissanite around too these days, its still expensive but half the cost of diamonds...it can test as diamond but has double refraction where a diamond has single refraction.

As a response to Broseph there are many different values that can be attatched to a piece of jewellery. Insurance valuation is always a generous amount of what it would cost to replace, retail value, trade value, melt value etc etc

You can buy CZ's for pennies so any jeweller disregards their presence in a valuation, a ring like this weights a couple of grams of silver and is only worth the scrap value. However if pollished back to bare silver or replated I am sure it would be restored to its former level of attractiveness.
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 Posted 09/16/2012  01:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
Perhaps it's a style, but I find it odd to mount so many small stones if they were synthetic like CZ.
A diamond tester at any jeweler is quick--but unless the stones are dirty, they don't have the right fire.
If you have an UV light, I would try illuminating the stones. Kunzite will fluoresce pink, as will pink sapphires. Another option, although unlikely due to the quality of the setting--do the stones change color from daylight to artificial light?
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09/16/2012 01:20 am
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 Posted 09/16/2012  02:20 am  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
It's a very intricate design for someone to fashion that from sterling.
Could be low quality pink tourmaline or high quality Rose Quartz.
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 Posted 09/16/2012  02:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrestling_135 to your friends list
What's the estimated value? Nice find where at?
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 Posted 09/16/2012  08:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Being a CZ piece, 99% of the value is tied up in the labour costs in it's manufacture.
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 Posted 09/16/2012  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fistfulladirt to your friends list
I took the ring to a jeweler the morning of the dig. I suspected that it was plated. The stones were not tested, as I assumed they were CZ.

Thanks for the comments!
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 Posted 09/16/2012  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
Just curious, how deep was it?
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 Posted 09/16/2012  4:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list
Someone only fashioned it once and then used the mount they made to cast from. Unless you can see solder joins in the head of the piece it is very unlikely that this is a one off hand made piece and far more likely that it is a mass produced cluster ring.
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 Posted 09/16/2012  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fistfulladirt to your friends list

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Just curious, how deep was it?

It was shallow enough that I could pinpoint it with my in-line probe, so, about 1" deep.
Right before I dug this ring, a previous signal on the turf turned out to be a 925 sterling band. I also pinpointed that ring easily, as it was just under the grass.
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 Posted 09/16/2012  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
I like finding stuff that has barely "started it's venture down". I dug a State Quarter one time that was 6" down...go figure.
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 Posted 09/16/2012  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list

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It's a very intricate design for someone to fashion that from sterling.
Yes--it would be for lost-wax or soldering, but I'm guessing it's mass-produced, as most settings are...in that faraway land where most of our retail stuff is made.

Not a bad idea to try the UV light. Pink CZ will look whitish-blue. Kunzite and pink sapphire will glow a bright red. Bright blue fluorescence is often seen on diamonds.
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 Posted 09/18/2012  01:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Diamonds are easily distingushed from CZ
CZ is a strong insulator of both heat and electricity, diamond is a conductor of these, except for one rare class of diamond which also is an electrical insulator.

The test is simple. A pair of pointed probes are contacted at opposite sides of the stone to be tested, and conductance (electrical and heat) are read off a scale. The stone does not even have to be taken out of the setting.
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 Posted 09/18/2012  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Night Hawk to your friends list
I refer to rings like that as my half second heart attacks.

That's how long it takes me to go from WOOO HOOO to damn, it's fake...


Better luck next time!
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 Posted 09/18/2012  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broseph to your friends list
I'd be happy to find even a fake ring! They are still better than pull tabs and clad!
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