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1954 Three Pence

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 Posted 10/14/2012  01:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwwww to your friends list
Looks nice, I'd say MS64. It's a very tough coin in that grade, most of the raw 'Unc's on the market are just doctored EFs due to the date being typically well struck up and due to the scarcity of genuine UNCs.
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 Posted 10/14/2012  02:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list

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Looks nice, I'd say MS64. It's a very tough coin in that grade, most of the raw 'Unc's on the market are just doctored EFs due to the date being typically well struck up and due to the scarcity of genuine UNCs.

Thank's for that Walter
I bought this last year and upgraded a heap of my 3d,6d and shillings at melt prices from a bulk lot.
I spotted the 54 in the pic on the listing and would have bid heaps more just to get this particular coin.
I have bought a few other lots on ebay of "Shiny " coins and most of them turn out to be cleaned or favorably photographed But this particular lot turned out to be 90% ms coins
Call me crazy I know I can get great coins and have from sites like yours But I just LOVE the thrill of the hunt.
It's a bit like fishing to me, Some days you spend a heap of cash on bait and fuel and come home with nothing.
Then there are the days when it all comes together and you get that trophy fish
Same with me with coins, I would rather catch my own fish than buy it at the fish market
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 Posted 10/14/2012  04:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list

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most of the raw 'Unc's on the market are just doctored EFs


Doctored how?
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 Posted 10/14/2012  05:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list

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Looks nice, I'd say MS64. It's a very tough coin in that grade, most of the raw 'Unc's on the market are just doctored EFs due to the date being typically well struck up and due to the scarcity of genuine UNCs.

Thank's for that Walter
I bought this last year and upgraded a heap of my 3d,6d and shillings at melt prices from a bulk lot.
I spotted the 54 in the pic on the listing and would have bid heaps more just to get this particular coin.
I have bought a few other lots on ebay of "Shiny " coins and most of them turn out to be cleaned or favorably photographed But this particular lot turned out to be 90% ms coins
Call me crazy I know I can get great coins and have from sites like yours But I just LOVE the thrill of the hunt.
It's a bit like fishing to me, Some days you spend a heap of cash on bait and fuel and come home with nothing.
Then there are the days when it all comes together and you get that trophy fish
Same with me with coins, I would rather catch my own fish than buy it at the fish market


@ your analogy Trout,i like it.
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 Posted 10/14/2012  06:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwwww to your friends list

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Doctored how?


Usually dipped or otherwise cleaned to remove the discolouration normally associated with wear. Pairing that with their usual strong strike is enough to convince newbies that the coin is UNC.

You can differentiate true UNCs with doctored UNCs by the presence of natural lustre (note that it's sometimes in the form of a deep mirror with this issue), if lustre is broken (usually in the obverse fields and flat areas of the bust), the coin is worn and certainly not UNC.
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 Posted 10/14/2012  07:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list
[quote][/qUsually dipped or otherwise cleaned to remove the discolouration normally associated with wear. Pairing that with their usual strong strike is enough to convince newbies that the coin is UNC.

You can differentiate true UNCs with doctored UNCs by the presence of natural lustre (note that it's sometimes in the form of a deep mirror with this issue), if lustre is broken (usually in the obverse fields and flat areas of the bust), the coin is worn and certainly not UNC.



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Well pointed out Walter.
I and I have no doubt the majority of us collectors at one stage or another have been duped by this dipping practice, As you stated if the fields on the lustre are weak/Look weird then it ain't MS but are doctored EF coins.
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 Posted 10/14/2012  10:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list
These are the aUNC/MS coins out of that bulk lot


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 Posted 10/14/2012  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list
Id call that a good win for melt price
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 Posted 10/14/2012  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list

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Id call that a good win for melt price

Yes nice and shiny AY
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 Posted 10/15/2012  02:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list
Hi trout, What country and denomination is the one I've circled please?

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 Posted 10/15/2012  02:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list

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Hi trout, What country and denomination is the one I've circled please?

that would be this one


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 Posted 10/15/2012  05:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list

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that would be this one
Oh dear, I thought it was a foreigner. Must be time for my next eye test. Thanks!
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Oh dear, I thought it was a foreigner. Must be time for my next eye test. Thanks!


Absolutely nothing wrong with your eyes, Well picked out
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 Posted 09/30/2013  07:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list

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Looks nice, I'd say MS64. It's a very tough coin in that grade, most of the raw 'Unc's on the market are just doctored EFs due to the date being typically well struck up and due to the scarcity of genuine UNCs.


Well Walter I finally bit the bullet and sent this away to PCGS
Here is the PCGS link
http://www.pcgs.com/Cert/28315631.html
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09/30/2013 08:17 am
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 Posted 09/30/2013  07:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwwww to your friends list
Very nice!
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