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Valued Member
United States
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To me it looks cleaned but that could just be the flash
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1081 Posts |
I would say AU58. It may be MS, however, you can seen come circulation "discoloration" where it appears to have been handled before. The mint luster is evident around the devices, but the fields have some "wear." It may have also been cleaned, but it's hard to tell from the pics. Great coin though.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Thanks for the welcomes and the comments. I hate macro photography indoors! With that said, here are two more photos with the airtite removed and no flash. I think it still looks a little better in person.  
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I think the last pictures have the look of what a copper/nickel Indian Head cent should have. FYI - Most like to see just the coin, and will ask to crop the photo so we can see only the coin. To me the hit on the cheek in front of ear, would hold this coin from getting a grade of MS65 or higher. That hit and the chatter in the fields on the obverse really draw my attention. But if in hand the coin looks better than pictures I could see it going MS63. If you can see any wear spots on the high points of the coin, then it would drop down into the higher AU grades.
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Valued Member
United States
366 Posts |
Need better images of the 1859 but what could be evidence of light cleaning is the difference in color between the obverse field and lettering. Note particularly the lettering/field color difference near the UN of UNITED. Again, need better images because it could be lighting rather than coin color.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
1304 Posts |
Thanks to everyone for their patience with me as I navigate taking photos. The coin doesn't have any wear on the high points, and I think that the cleaning spots are shadows from the photo and poor lighting. In person the luster is near uniform. I will post using a real camera on macro with better lighting in the near future and I will be sure to crop out the backgrounds. As GR58 pointed out, there are a few hits and light chatter, but it is mainly on the obverse. The reverse is fairly clean (in hand). I will work on my photo skills and get them up. Thanks everyone for making my first thread in the forum a good learning experience!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think this looks like an MS coin, MS63. She's a beauty!
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
1304 Posts |
As promised, I had access to a better camera. It might still wash out some of the color due to the lighting, but I think I have a better cropped image this time. Let me know what you think!  
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
36880 Posts |
Looks like some wear on the high points and possible cleaning due to the blotchy surface, I'd go with AU-55 details on this one.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
1304 Posts |
Under magnification I can see that it might have been cleaned on the obverse. I don't see any indication the reverse was cleaned (but maybe a better job was done). I don't really see any wear though. The details of the hair and the cheek on the obverse are still there under magnification as is the wreath on the reverse. I think my camera skills are lacking still and it isn't quite as focused as I would have hoped using the macro setting.
But, please note, I am trying to learn, I am no expert which is why I am here. I need to learn and understand grading so that I can be a better buyer in the future. Thanks for the help. How adversely does cleaning effect this coins value? Should one stay away from all cleaned coins?
Edited by EFLargeCents 12/26/2012 2:18 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1704 Posts |
How are you going to store your type set? If it's going into an album why pay the money to have slabbed only to take it out after you get it back. It's a very nice coin and in its present holder it should be just fine. Ed ANA LM-3175
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Pillar of the Community
Israel
2420 Posts |
I'd say this one is a real nice AU58  .
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
1304 Posts |
I think I'm going to avoid using an album and leave it in the present holder. I will likely store the entire set in similar holders and make a tray for them at some point if I want to show them to folks, or just for my own viewing. I don't think I will have this set graded. I would like to hone my grading skills though so I can get the best value in the future, so advice and opinions are appreciated!
Edited by EFLargeCents 12/26/2012 3:18 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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For points of wear look at the middle diamonds, highest points of the hair curls, tips of feathers; on reverse, highest points of the leaves. It's a real nice AU coin but I don't think this one makes MS status.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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I think I can see where the feathers aren't as sharp as they should be for an uncirculated coin. The middle diamond looks OK under magnification at least. Thanks for the tips IndianGoldEagle.
I have one more Indian Head to go for my type set (1860-64), and this information is going to go a long way toward helping me to pick out the best one I can find for the right price. Thanks!
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