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After the design have changed to include the "CENTS" word in it, rumors spread about confiscation of the no cents variety.
This led to massive hoarding of the coin, assuming the ones left would soar in price. That makes a lot of sense. |
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Having read the story on Josh Tatum over the years, I remember him being a deaf mute. Did a quick search and came up with this link http://www.coinsite.com/content/faq...erNickel.aspIf accurate it states he got off because he could not speak, so never told the merchants the he had a five dollar coin. This is the first I remember reading that his coins had a "hand reeded" edge and gold plated. Of course sometimes it is hard to get the true details of any story in our modern internet age. But I do agree the odd coin always seems to be saved more often. Other examples .. 1943 steel Lincoln Cent and bicentenial coins from 1975 and 1976. When coins are saved at such a volume they end up having much less value. Edited by GR58
12/22/2012 8:37 pm
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I had heard the story some 20 years ago. I knew he had some handicap. That's what happens when you go by old memories. Now, if I could only remember where I left my money and my wife........ Oh, now I remember, they both ran away together.
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Agreed with all the above ... larger mintage but many more saved by collectors (hoarders) of the day. Quote:
After double checking I was very surprised and disappointed I humbly suggest that if you choose to submit a coin to a TPG ... you should at a minimum do enough research to know what you are submitting. The CCF remains a great resource ... we could have given you better advise. David Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art |
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Cool story, thanks for the trivia
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That makes a lot of sense. Booooooo. Not very punny sah! |
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Everybody collected the no cents even tried to turn it into a gold five dollar piece, the with cents was not horded went through circulation like all coins and that makes the coin much harder to get today. The 1883 no cent nickel is one of the cheapest MS V nickels on the market. I actually have one that someone took the time and gave it a reeded edge. |
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Now, if I could only remember where I left my money and my wife........ Oh, now I remember, they both ran away together.  Very funny, I'll be using that one Edited by upstate
12/22/2012 11:32 pm
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There was a famous thief named Josh that was plating these nickels in Gold and passing them off as $5 Gold pieces. The saying "no Joshing", actually came from him...no Joshing. The Josh Tatum story is a nice story, but that is all it is a story. There is no evidence a Josh Tatum ever existed, there is no record anywhere of a Josh Tatum being tried for passing plated coins. And the story about it being the source of the term Joshing is also wrong. The term joshing or to josh meaning to trick or fool dates for the 1830's, long before the 1883 NC nickel. |
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I have been told that both reeded and unreeded gold plated examples exist of the no cents variety. Mine has no reeding. However,the gold wash is worn away on the higher parts of the coin. The "modern" examples, from the late 60s into the 70s are completely gold washed and show no signs of having actually circulated. Yet another numismatic mystery.   |
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The term joshing or to josh meaning to trick or fool dates for the 1830's, long before the 1883 NC nickel.
But isn't it possible that people in the 1830's already knew that a Josh Tatum would someday take the new, not yet invented, Nickel and plate it with Gold?   Just Joshing you know. |
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The earliest recorded uses of josh as a verb come from an 1845 edition of the St. Louis Reveille and an 1852 edition of the New York Lantern. The relevant lines are "Look out in future, and if you must Josh, why, give a private one" and "The squint eyed chap's been joshin' ye," respectively.
Both of these come before the career of a well-known American humorist of the era, Josh Billings (career 1860-1885), who may have been in part responsible for the popularization of the word.
This is what I love about the OED. It gets you definitions, but it also gets you examples of the word in use as far back as can be found.
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12/26/2012 11:18 am
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Be wary of modern low grade gold plated no cents 1883 nickels which are meant to deceive. The original gold plated nickels were plated shortly after entering circulation and have virtually no wear to them. It also isn't cost effective for someone to take an AU or MS coin and plate it since the gold plating will be too shiny and fresh. The original racketeer nickels will be more dull from age. Ed ANA LM-3175 |
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