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For The Newcomers - Sgs Tgp

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 Posted 01/29/2013  2:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
SGS, the gift that keeps on giving.
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 Posted 01/29/2013  2:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denco7 to your friends list

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And dont forget the Snydely Whiplash scroll.


Or a " tramp stamp " depending on your point of view.
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 Posted 01/29/2013  2:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broken-Coin to your friends list
me thinks both SGS & NTC grade on a 100 point system instead of the 70 point system.
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 Posted 01/29/2013  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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me thinks both SGS & NTC grade on a 100 point system instead of the 70 point system.


I would argue they grade on a 15-point system - I've seen roadkill in AU55 slabs.
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 Posted 01/29/2013  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
OK so it has a fingerprint. Was the print visible when it was slabbed? Remember the PCGS PR-70 1964 LMC and the PCGS 2003 MS-70 LMC both turned in their slabs as well. So just because it is ugly and obvious NOW doesn't mean it was when it was slabbed.
Please do not take this as a defense of SGS. If you want to attack them for 70's that have wear or scratches that is great, but for things that could have happened AFTER the slabbing really isn't fair.
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 Posted 01/29/2013  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list
Condor thats a fair point, but I think the criticism is valid in this case knowing their reputation. PCGS NGC OR ANACS if it happened I would give them the benefit of the doubt knowing their reputation. In the case of SGS had it happened before or after the same grade would appear on the label imo
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 Posted 01/29/2013  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
SGS (aka: the guy in his basement), puts MS70 on almost everything.

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 Posted 01/29/2013  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DNA to your friends list
Now, wait a minute, everyone.
That's an original 1961 fingerprint from a Mint employee, so the PR-70 grade is totally deserved...

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 Posted 01/30/2013  12:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jlafever to your friends list
Hmmmmm....Conder101, I see the wisdom in your thinking. I do try to give someone the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps I am too hasty in my judgement and it is easy to kick someone when their down. Then again, If it walks like a duck....

fioti - the Snydely Whiplash analogy is hilarious. Even though it's before my time.................NOT!
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I was impressed with the "112070961.00094". Seems legit.......
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 Posted 01/30/2013  1:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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and it is easy to kick someone when their down.

Especially when everyone else is kicking them.
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 Posted 01/30/2013  1:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denco7 to your friends list

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Was the print visible when it was slabbed?


So are you saying it was there when they graded it and missed it by mistake like PCGS or NGC might do ? Or it wasn't prominent enough at the time to be able to see it under 5X magnification. But it was prominent enough to look this nasty several years later.?

I don't understand.
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I'm so tempted to move this thread as SGS is no where near a legit TPG
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 Posted 01/30/2013  5:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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So are you saying it was there when they graded it and missed it by mistake like PCGS or NGC might do ? Or it wasn't prominent enough at the time to be able to see it under 5X magnification. But it was prominent enough to look this nasty several years later.?


Hes saying that the print could have been on the coin but not visible yet when it was slabbed which is possible. For SGS I wont give them the benefit of the doubt like I would the others


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I'm so tempted to move this thread as SGS is no where near a legit TPG


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 Posted 01/30/2013  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DNA to your friends list
The point of this thread is that SGS could well have slabbed that Cent "PR-70"
even if the fingerprint was as visible before the slabbing as it is in the photo.

It may not have been, as Conder101 stated, but Mr. SGS isn't gonna buy it back like PCGS or NGC would...

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I'm so tempted to move this thread as SGS is no where near a legit TPG

But this thread is a perfect education to newcomers as to why SGS is not a legitimate grading service.
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