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Moderator
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SGS, the gift that keeps on giving. 
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: And dont forget the Snydely Whiplash scroll. Or a " tramp stamp " depending on your point of view. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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me thinks both SGS & NTC grade on a 100 point system instead of the 70 point system.
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Quote: me thinks both SGS & NTC grade on a 100 point system instead of the 70 point system. I would argue they grade on a 15-point system - I've seen roadkill in AU55 slabs.
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Bedrock of the Community
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OK so it has a fingerprint. Was the print visible when it was slabbed? Remember the PCGS PR-70 1964 LMC and the PCGS 2003 MS-70 LMC both turned in their slabs as well. So just because it is ugly and obvious NOW doesn't mean it was when it was slabbed. Please do not take this as a defense of SGS. If you want to attack them for 70's that have wear or scratches that is great, but for things that could have happened AFTER the slabbing really isn't fair.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Condor thats a fair point, but I think the criticism is valid in this case knowing their reputation. PCGS NGC OR ANACS if it happened I would give them the benefit of the doubt knowing their reputation. In the case of SGS had it happened before or after the same grade would appear on the label imo
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Moderator
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SGS (aka: the guy in his basement), puts MS70 on almost everything.
swcoin.ecrater.com
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Now, wait a minute, everyone. That's an original 1961 fingerprint from a Mint employee, so the PR-70 grade is totally deserved...  
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Valued Member
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Hmmmmm....Conder101, I see the wisdom in your thinking. I do try to give someone the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps I am too hasty in my judgement and it is easy to kick someone when their down. Then again, If it walks like a duck....
fioti - the Snydely Whiplash analogy is hilarious. Even though it's before my time.................NOT!
Edited by Jlafever 01/30/2013 12:11 am
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Valued Member
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I was impressed with the "112070961.00094". Seems legit.......
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: and it is easy to kick someone when their down. Especially when everyone else is kicking them.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: Was the print visible when it was slabbed? So are you saying it was there when they graded it and missed it by mistake like PCGS or NGC might do ? Or it wasn't prominent enough at the time to be able to see it under 5X magnification. But it was prominent enough to look this nasty several years later.? I don't understand.
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I'm so tempted to move this thread as SGS is no where near a legit TPG 
swcoin.ecrater.com
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: So are you saying it was there when they graded it and missed it by mistake like PCGS or NGC might do ? Or it wasn't prominent enough at the time to be able to see it under 5X magnification. But it was prominent enough to look this nasty several years later.? Hes saying that the print could have been on the coin but not visible yet when it was slabbed which is possible. For SGS I wont give them the benefit of the doubt like I would the others Quote:I'm so tempted to move this thread as SGS is no where near a legit TPG 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The point of this thread is that SGS could well have slabbed that Cent "PR-70" even if the fingerprint was as visible before the slabbing as it is in the photo. It may not have been, as Conder101 stated, but Mr. SGS isn't gonna buy it back like PCGS or NGC would... Quote: I'm so tempted to move this thread as SGS is no where near a legit TPG But this thread is a perfect education to newcomers as to why SGS is not a legitimate grading service. 
Edited by DNA 01/30/2013 6:07 pm
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