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Possibly The Worst Grading I Have Seen Yet

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 Posted 05/30/2007  03:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow that's horrible. The sad thing is, that it probably was a newbie who bought it after they were looking it up on the PCGS price guide. I wonder if they'll give up the hobby once they find out how much money they lost...
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 Posted 05/30/2007  03:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Check out His buyers feedback ?

what do you think ? is it legit ?

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...110132379942
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 Posted 05/30/2007  04:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This guy is such a scammer...but comparing some of my morgans to his, it looks like I have a few MS70 Morgans...wonder how much those are worth lol.
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 Posted 05/30/2007  11:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...110132379942

It reminds me of times when I'm fly fishing and I've dropped a juicy-looking grey grizzly on top of the water and I keep catching the same fish over and over and over again, yet the fish doesn't realize it's been caught so comes back for more. Thinks it's getting an easy meal. As long as it doesn't swallow the hook...
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 Posted 06/01/2007  12:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsforyou to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is just ridicilous it is one of the many scams I've seen on ebay dealing with coins.
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 Posted 06/01/2007  01:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yechi7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How is it his feedback has only 1 negative & over 300 positives? Is everyone asleep at the wheel?
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 Posted 06/05/2007  2:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm a noob and I can even tell it's not "Proof Like", unreal that anyone would pay for that. Maybe he generates the labels himself? Do people attempt to fake them? Anyone seen a fake PCGS label?

Noob question...what's a "slabber".
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 Posted 06/05/2007  6:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Noob question...what's a "slabber".


Basement slabber - Someone that buys hard plastic holders resembling the top three TPG's holders, prints out a label naming their service, and immensely over grades their coins that they put in them.

I believe most use Coin World holders which can be purchased at various supply stores.

If you haven't read this yet Thad, there are only three respected third party grading companies out there. In order of resale value/respect/honored on the market, they are PCGS, NGC, and ANACS. ICG places a close fourth. ANACS will slab problem coins. Cleaned, etc. The other two I don't think will. Instead they will "body bag" a coin and return it to the submitter with the reason. You will see numerous "basement slabbers" with names that are close to these three to try to suck in buyers that are not paying attention. Be very careful when buying any slab other than the 4 listed above.
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 Posted 06/05/2007  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Guido to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know, I kind of like the gunshot wounds to her face. It gives the coin a lot of character.

Seriously, though, that is a real crime. I don't have words to express my unhappiness with those kinds of people. What a slime!
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 Posted 06/08/2007  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add One Red Cent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks cleaned to me.
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 Posted 07/20/2007  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kenny_1745 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The highest coin that coin should get is EF
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 Posted 01/28/2008  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add julie a aronson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I won an auction with this scammer and the coin I won on auction was in pretty good shape and I would have got a good deal, but she never sent the coin and after I emailed her 10 times with no answer as to where it was I opened a dispute suddenly she responded to dispute saying "I explained that I mailed to wrong person and now she has it back, no way was I going to take the coin. Sure enough she re-listed the coin she was going to send me and it was about 5 grades down from the one I won. I left neg. and she hounded me everyday to withdraw neg. feedback but I would not she has 53 mutual withdraws!! I just waited for paypal to refund.
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 Posted 01/28/2008  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Julie A Aronson,
I'm glad you were able to get your refund. That's another point in favor of using PayPal to protect yourself when shopping on ebay. It also sounds like this seller richly deserved their negative feedback.

By the way, welcome to the forum!
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 Posted 01/29/2008  01:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm glad people got redress from these obvious scammers. You're right...this is the worst case of "grading" I've seen , although some dealers often pull this kind of stuff--without slabbing.

This problem is going to get a lot worse when forged PCGS/NGC slabs hit the market in quantity.
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01/29/2008 01:19 am
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 Posted 02/08/2008  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gbchaosmaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's just terrible. WCG is definitely going at the top of the list of bad coin graders.
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