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A Trade Dollar From 1872

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 Posted 03/01/2013  03:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list
Trade dollars were made from 1873-1885, and that doesn't look like them.
Here is mine:
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yours looks small/fake
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 Posted 03/01/2013  04:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yordan to your friends list
Hello Fuzzy317 - could you share the diameter of your coin, I wish to compare the measurements with mine please.

btw .. I've clean the coin with soap, it was too dirty.
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 Posted 03/01/2013  04:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list
I don't have it with me, but here is CCF's page on Trade dollars.
http://www.coincommunity.com/us_dollars/trade.asp
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 Posted 03/01/2013  06:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OddCoins to your friends list
It appears to have a Trade dollar obverse and a pattern reverse. Looks like an attempt to copy the Goloid pattern.
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 Posted 03/01/2013  07:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
its definitely a copy of the goloid coins, there is 0 chance the coin is real. The real goloid dollars I have seen were made in 1878 and the Obverse is completely different and there were No goloid dollars made in 1872 so any with that date even if the correct design is a fantasy piece. One more thing, you should never clean any coin with anything because if this were a real goloid dollar you would have just diminished its numismatic value to less than half of its actual value.

Even though this one is also fake this is close to what the Obverse of the real goloid dollars look like
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 Posted 03/01/2013  08:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add epikur to your friends list
Seems like a bad attempt of copying this pattern:
http://www.harrybassfoundation.org/....asp?id=6101
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 Posted 03/01/2013  09:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveCaruso to your friends list
It's not a Goloid, it's a replica/counterfeit Trade dollar pattern (J1220/P1362).

Quite common in several varieties:

http://fakes.numismetrica.com/2012/...1-1872-0001/
http://fakes.numismetrica.com/2012/...1-1872-0002/

However as others have noted yours looks far too small. A genuine pattern should have a diameter of ~38 mm and weigh around 27 grams (if struck in silver, it was struck in other metals too).

I honestly haven't seen a tiny one like that before. :-) I'd wholeheartedly encourage you to submit it to The Black Cabinet (digitally with better pictures or otherwise) as it'd be worth documenting.
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 Posted 03/17/2016  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kicknit9531 to your friends list
More Information on this coin please?

A-Trade-Dollar-From-1872

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 Posted 03/17/2016  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joe2007 to your friends list

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More Information on this coin please?


Chinese Counterfeit.
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 Posted 12/09/2016  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Laborde to your friends list


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A-Trade-Dollar-From-1872

can someone please help, I'm trying to find out value if any and if it's real
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 Posted 12/09/2016  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
Sorry guys, all the Trade dollars you all have posted are fake (except Fuzzy's.)
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 Posted 12/09/2016  08:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
Laborde,

You posted onto an old thread. Your coin is dated 1872 and the first issue of the business Trade dollar was 1873, so your coin is counterfeit.

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 Posted 12/09/2016  09:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list

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Your coin is dated 1872 and the first issue of the business Trade dollar was 1873, so your coin is counterfeit.


I think the term you're looking for is "fantasy coin"...
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 Posted 12/09/2016  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Debrajc to your friends list
and yes, the Trade dollar is one of the most counterfeited coins there is.
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 Posted 12/09/2016  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Fantasy coin is indeed the correct description.



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