1909 S VDB Lincoln

Did you try to grade this yourself? I would suggest you send it to one of those "special" TPG's that some of those ebay sellers use.
Maybe XYZ Grading company or ZZZ Grading company and see what they say. I'm sure if you get it properly graded and slabbed it will bring top dollar on ebay. Do you have any of the new Washington Dollars that are struck 100% of center too.

Sorry, that's a 1914-D, I'm surprised you missed it.

Morgan Fred feel free to make an offer but I did not say it was for sale. I have an idea what I would sell it for but that the issue I put it here for all you experts to look at and come up with a grade. After all in these days of Market grading a point here or there can make a huge difference in price.

Halfabustisbetter. You may be correct. It may be a 1914-D but this would pose certain time problems as it was in the middle of a BU fed wrapped roll of 1909SVDBs bought in 1909. To think that the Mint were so far ahead in their minting and that one not due for release for another 5 years ended up in a roll of 1909s makes me think I low balled my estimate on its value. I will have to rethink its worth. Upon what diagnistics do you base your claim or 1914-D :-)

Man, you have got to put it on ebay. It will go for a grand. Those guys believe almost anything. And to think I just sold one for $5.
Jim

OK fine it's a 1909 D VDB. My mistake

Richard, to answer your original post for a request for a grade I notice everyone else has dodged your request), I'd have to state that it doesn't appear it would grade above VF-30 or -35. Presuming it's not cleaned (very difficult to determine many types of cleaning from images, but I think not in this instance), the circulation marks on the rims on both the obverse (at 11, 1, 2, and 4 o'clock) and the reverse (12:30, 4, 5, and 6 o'clock) and in the fields on both sides would tend to keep the grade down if submitted to a top TPG. There also appears to be a gouge at the 4 o'clock position on the obverse, but I don't think it's serious enough to warrant a body bag. I think the circulation marks are too severe to make it XF but I could be wrong (market grading, y'know); I do tend to grade rather harshly. Of course, we're charting new territory with regard to the condition of the devices.

I hope this provides you with enough information regarding your eventual decision whether or not to submit it to a top TPG for slabbing.

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Richard, to answer your original post for a request for a grade I notice everyone else has dodged your request), I'd have to state that it doesn't appear it would grade above VF-30 or -35. Presuming it's not cleaned (very difficult to determine many types of cleaning from images, but I think not in this instance), the circulation marks on the rims on both the obverse (at 11, 1, 2, and 4 o'clock) and the reverse (12:30, 4, 5, and 6 o'clock) and in the fields on both sides would tend to keep the grade down if submitted to a top TPG. There also appears to be a gouge at the 4 o'clock position on the obverse, but I don't think it's serious enough to warrant a body bag. I think the circulation marks are too severe to make it XF but I could be wrong (market grading, y'know); I do tend to grade rather harshly. Of course, we're charting new territory with regard to the condition of the devices.

I hope this provides you with enough information regarding your eventual decision whether or not to submit it to a top TPG for slabbing.

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Morgan_Fred, I think the first picture is reverse and the second one is obverse. You might want to re-write your comments.

The coin has to be weighed. If it turns out to be copper then we know it's from 1909-1958 or 1982. Other than that you would have to produce proof that it came from the middle of a 1909-S VDB roll.

I seriously doubt that there are any 1909-S vdb rolls around. So proof is out of the question.

Another problem is the toning, the coin looks to red/orange on the rim to be a 1909-S VDB from an original bank roll. The wrapper would have toned the rim of the coin and this would be evident.

If this is a joke then it can be whatever date you want it to be.lol