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Test Your Skills----1858 ICCS

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 Posted 05/14/2013  4:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gidjit to your friends list
i agree vf35
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NVF.
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 Posted 05/14/2013  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lambecolin to your friends list
I take that to be NOT vf
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 Posted 05/15/2013  05:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list
NVF in the UK stands for nearly very fine.
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 Posted 05/15/2013  06:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wireman09 to your friends list
Older embossed ICCS flip...VF30. Nice example.
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 Posted 05/15/2013  08:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Airw0lf to your friends list
VF - 20
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 Posted 05/15/2013  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lambecolin to your friends list
Sorry about that folks---Forum rules I cannot edit after 1 day.
So this is the results : % of design remaining
-------------------- Votes grades
50% 1 F15
75% 5 VF20.VF30,VF35
90% 1 EF40
Congrats go to Airwolf for VF20.
I only comment is this flip is going to be cracked wide open.
I grade it VF35--EF40
Now how should I dip it?
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 Posted 05/15/2013  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Airw0lf to your friends list
thank you ..lambecolin... , and thank you to the people in the forum for help me to learn every day...
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 Posted 05/26/2013  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GaryN to your friends list
I'm not sure exactly what you're saying, but are you thinking that ICCS graded too low. I'm looking for the best to use in Canada, so if ICCS under-grades, what would you suggest is this best one to use?
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 Posted 05/26/2013  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
If you are looking for the best to use in Canada, your options are pretty limited...
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 Posted 05/28/2013  09:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
SPP.. As some have discussed recently...Some graders have eased their #'s up a tad and many of us are running to get a higher grade from graders a bit south.

You yourself got some of your special coins re-graded for the better.

I can understand why.. one bump-up in a high grade coin can easily double it's trends value.. Everyone's running after that one grade higher to double their value..

We can't blame anyone here.. I feel that I should do it also..

Should we opt for a re-grade on some rarer pieces.?
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 Posted 05/28/2013  11:47 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
I was not inferring anything about resubmissions for a better grade... just simply a reply to GaryN that Canadian collectors have very limited choices when it comes to Canadian graders. Or, we have the added stress of paperwork, shipping and customs to deal with when sending to US graders.

Personally, I have a bias when it comes to the upper echelon of Canadian mint state coins, and my own registry sets reflect this. Ask yourself this question: why were most of the coins from Sid Belzberg, Ted Frick, Louis Eliasberg, John Pittman, Henry Norweb and the Canadiana collection (in summary, Canada's finest coins) graded by PCGS? You will not see those coins cracked out and submitted to other grading companies...

We all have our reasons for grade resubmissions. For me, I want the coin to have the correct grade, that matches my own grade. Value is meaningless to me, because I don't intend to sell my collection. For coins I do sell, I want the grade to reflect the coin - I hate coins in "coffins" (overgraded coins in TPG slabs - and all TPG are guilty of this) and tend to avoid them. That is why I sent my 1967 25-cent nickel pattern DC-34, that was in an ICCS MS-65 holder, to PCGS, and I am now happier with it in a PCGS SP-64 holder. The rarity and eye-appeal are the same, but now it is properly graded according to condition and strike...

A word of caution however; getting an upgrade, while may double in value according to CCN Trends, does not mean the coin is any more valuable. Buyers of the finest pieces out there tend to be very good graders of the series they collect, and they buy the coin, not the holder. I have seen a lot of ICCS MS-65 Red large cents and silver dollars and PCGS nickel 5-cents and NFLD coins languish in dealers cases and auctions, due to lesser eye appeal and perceived grade.
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 Posted 05/28/2013  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
SPP..Thanks for that summation on your reasoning why.

I'm not in a hurry to run anywhere with mine because I'm not planning anything either. Although I can understand how people 'in the trade' would want the best possible grade to help sell their coins.

It is worrisome to see such grading differences now and we see a lot of discussion here because of it. It certainly hurts the hobby and causes a lot of uncertainty for everyone collecting or selling. There are a lot of sellers and collectors here complaining of grades ..

Like many here have stated,..you want to hold it in your hand and do your own evaluation before committing to an important purchase.
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