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My question to auction owner:
Are you the original submitter of this coin to PCGS? Reason for asking is this coin is NOT a 1916 coin and should have been put in a 1917 labeled slab.
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yes I am the original submitter.
Still 3 1/2 hours to go.
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Wow... the coin shows no diagnostics of a 1916, not even close.  |
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I really like looking/commenting on diffirentiating the 1916/1917 SLQ....but it will have to wait until I getto the house  Edited by oih82w8
05/23/2013 1:15 pm
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I never heard back from the seller. The winning bidder is pretty experienced (over 1000 Feedbacks), but this was the only Quarter in his listed bidding history. Not good.
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Follow up question regarding PCGS and 1916 SLQs. I did a cert check out of curiosity and it said that FR02 has a population of 9. Does that sound right?  Edited by CoinsKelly
05/23/2013 4:06 pm
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yes I am the original submitter.
When he filled out the submittal form he had to have put 1916 as the date of the coin and the graders at PCGS should have caught the fact that this coin does not have the diagnostics of a 1916 so it would seem this seller was hoping they wouldn't catch the coin was a 1917 AND that any potential buyer on ebay wouldn't know what to look for either. Ed ANA LM-3175 |
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Wow..the coin shows no diagnostics of a 1916, not even close. Definitely a 1917 |
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Buy the coin, not the slab.
Even with their buy back guarantee or whatever THEY are the ones determining if they will buy it back and you are usually on the losing end.
Weak shield rivets are the thing I look for on a 1916
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Wow! The rounded bottom gown is a dead giveaway.
This could have been a major disaster for all involved.
PCGS fail!
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This could have been a major disaster for all involved. It may yet be. I don't think the buyer knows what he's getting. |
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Is it possible to open a slab and put a different coin in it? I don't even see the as FR2, I would have gone AG. It's hard to believe any TPG could make a mistake on a high caliber,popular coin like this date. Seems like coin identification 201 and these guys have PHD's. |
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The rivets on the shield immediately caught my eye before I even saw the gown. I would put this at AG, just the amount of wear on it.
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Ummm....it's 1916 to me.
1917 has 5 stars right?
1916 has 6 stars?
( I mean just counting one side)
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05/26/2013 12:34 am
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Well, as has been stated many times, it is obviously a 1917. I do not believe TPGs would mess this up. Whoever is grading SLQs will have specifically gone over this exact thing many times.
The seller is the liar here IMO. He likely had a genuine 1916 in this slab. He cracked it out very carefully and put in a dateless 1917 that was the approx grade. The TPGs never call an SLQ more than AG if there is zero date, so this AG coin is close enough to FR-2. Doing this with the slab is very hard to do, but probably worth the 1500 he just scammed. He would then re-submit the real 1916.
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He cracked it out very carefully and put in a dateless 1917 that was the approx grade. The TPGs never call an SLQ more than AG if there is zero date, so this AG coin is close enough to FR-2. Doing this with the slab is very hard to do, but probably worth the 1500 he just scammed. He would then re-submit the real 1916. Ill never say that anythings impossible to do, but thats getting very close to it. Theres pretty much no way to do that and leave no trace and not have the slab held together with duck tape |
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Posted 05/23/2013 1:07 pm
