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1827 Bust Half

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 Posted 05/21/2007  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prethen to your friends list
XF45 (that's a bit on the optimistic side, but I like the originality).
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 Posted 05/22/2007  11:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lovethebluesman to your friends list
The text is fantastic and holds this coin higher than it's material's current condition. XF-46
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 Posted 05/24/2007  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list
quote:
...have you figured out which of the 49 Overtons of '27 it is yet? Looks like a couple of telling cracks; I'll drag out my book later on if no one else has done it by the time my house is cleaned up.


Hi Habib,
I couldn't find Overton, all I found is "Half Bust Fever" which is useless. Not even sure I have Overton. My oldest daughter collects these and she left home five years ago, maybe she has Overton. Anyway, is your house cleaned up yet? Which is it?
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 Posted 05/25/2007  02:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list
Even if the luster is compromised, I see this coin as a strong XF. I believe the variety is O-129. That would make it Obverse 20-s2 and Reverse W. This variety has a rarity rating of R4.

Thanks for the great pics, Dave! There are an awful lot of varieties for 1827. Your pics were great for narrowing it down.

For those of you who don't have an Overton book, here are the diagnostics for this variety:

Obverse: Stars are close to milling. Date is 8 1/4 mm. All of the stars on the left are usually flat while all of the stars on the right are relatively sharp.

Reverse: 50 C. is 1 1/2 mm large and well centered. A-A is slightly over 1/4 mm. There is a small defect lump near the top of stripe 1 and part of an extra line on the left side of stripe 4 which is 1 mm long. There is a small ridge in the stand of the L in PLURIBUS.

I couldn't tell if the ridge was there, but I'm pretty sure I see both of the reverse die defects in the stripes.
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 Posted 05/25/2007  03:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfabustisbetter to your friends list
Thanks, Susan.

Sorry SuperDave I went right from a messy house to two sick kids. I'll try to be faster next time, I promise
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 Posted 05/25/2007  06:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list
Best wishes for a speedy recovery for your kids!
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Dave, I concur with a XF-40, but it is close to a VF-30, but I think it makes it. Does look like an old cleaning with a retoning; however, for eye appeal it is perfect! I love it and wish it were mine.

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 Posted 05/25/2007  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list
I'm actually glad that you didn't get the time, HABIB. I had terrible insomnia last night and this gave me something fun and interesting to do.
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 Posted 05/25/2007  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
I believe you have it, Susan. Thank you very much for your assistance. Here are crops from the full-size images:

1827-Bust-Half

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 Posted 05/25/2007  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list
Also appear's to have a clashed die on the reverse
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 Posted 05/26/2007  12:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list
Thanks again, Susan for the attribution. I ordered a copy of Overton & Parsley: EARLY HALF DOLLAR DIE VARIETIES 1794-1836, Fourth Edition, from Charles Davis. Let's see how long media mail takes between two points inside of Massachusetts.
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 Posted 05/28/2007  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Benji to your friends list
I like the multiple clashes
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Thanks again, Susan for the attribution. I ordered a copy of Overton & Parsley: EARLY HALF DOLLAR DIE VARIETIES 1794-1836, Fourth Edition, from Charles Davis. Let's see how long media mail takes between two points inside of Massachusetts.

This might be the best money you ever spend. While I use my fourth edition almost exclusively, I still have the third edition by Al Overton. I just love these books!
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 Posted 05/29/2007  09:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Benji to your friends list
Susan, I found that the 4th Ed. was full of inaccuracies and omissions. I think you are first person who I have encountered that prefers the 4th ed. over the previous releases. Why do you use the 4th "exclusively"?
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 Posted 05/29/2007  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list
I have been able to find everything that I've been looking for in the fourth edition (so far). When I'm in doubt, I go back to the third edition. It is my feeling that there is more info in the fourth edition.
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