$1 2012-P Cleveland First Term - ?s On Filled #s & Letters

My guess would be Die Deterioration - it appears as if the portion of the die which would have been the center of the 8 or the loop in the S has just broken off. I was hoping that an expert on the site could say what happened. I am only a novice in understanding all of this!

Let me know what you find when you check.

Pete

John1 - can you explain the difference between a die chip and the description I gave of what I thought might be happening?
Thanks,
Pete

I have found these die chips in numbers and letters on the new quarters too but they do not seem to have a big following in the error collecting community yet. Someday they will so I would hold onto any of them you find. I don't know what you are referring to with type 1 2 or 3 but die chips can happen in the exact same place on different die pairs. I am sure it would be hard to tell if they came from the same dies unless you can find other die markers. It is very possible that they are from the same die if found in the same UNC roll though.
Kris

Pete,
I am no pro and have trouble "splanin" my self so we will need to wait for a pro to chime in.As for the water spots they can not be removed and are caused by the cleaning process at the mint.
John1

I don't know if water spots is the correct term but it is the term that I have always heard and use.If I remember right the mint cleans the planchets before sticking and if the planchets are not rinsed off properly the residue gets pressed into the coin.
John1

Thanks, John1 - that is the term...here is one thread discussing it:

https://goccf.com/t/133895

I also found another discussion where the suggestion was that they could be removed with a mild eraser - I might try that!

Pete

I'm not sure where I saw this thread, but they were saying that a harder eraser left marks, but that a very soft eraser left no traces....I sill might try it if I can find a coin where it doesn't matter. For now, it's Father's Day and there are other plans!

HAPPY FATHER'S DAY TO ALL FORUM FATHERS!

Buddy - don't give up the search.

On another subject - I tried the soft eraser on the milk spots on a throw away coin - doesn't leave marks on the coin and the milk spots are still there!! I wish there was a way to remove them...
Pete