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1916 D Mercury Opinions Please .. Real Of Fake

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 Posted 09/25/2013  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paleoguy45 to your friends list
Given the fact that this Merc is a VG8-10 I would be absolutely certain before I purchased it or at least be guaranteed my money back if it doesn't pass the slab test. I'm holding a slabbed VG8 in hand and the one you picture is at least that good. The mint mark lines up but yours appears to be slightly larger. I don't have access to the different die pair info, but like everyone else has noted, this one and the LWC 14D are hugely counterfeited. PG
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 Posted 09/25/2013  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list
Submit it for them, and if it comes back as legit, make an offer then. My first impression is that it's legit.
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 Posted 09/25/2013  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add solotime to your friends list
I think it's real.

The grade looks more like G-4.
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 Posted 09/25/2013  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kevro22 to your friends list
It looks good to me also, does it have the slight die rotation which I think is a hallmark of the genuine coins? Not to say that couldn't be faked either, but you could rule it out if it didn't have it. I don't have it bookmarked but there is a website somewhere that had the known 4 (?) correct mint mark shapes and locations you could compare. Mine is an AG so not much detail like yours but my D looks similiar to yours. Good luck!
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 Posted 09/25/2013  10:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list
The coin seems to be genuine. Looks like a G-6 though the details on the central design elements could be seen on a VG, I think the rim wearing into the tops of America may just hold it back a little. Definitely a good idea to have a TPG look at it.
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 Posted 09/25/2013  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
Maybe MacMercury will stop in.
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 Posted 09/26/2013  12:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add slowaltima to your friends list
From all of the pictures I've seen of these over the years, this one looks genuine to me. Wear looks correct and it does appear to be slightly rotated. Hoping MacMercury will stop in as I'm definitely not an expert on the series.
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 Posted 09/26/2013  01:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list
IMHO, it grades G-6. However, I'm not seeing the telltale triangle of a genuine 16-D. I agree that, if purchased, it should be done with the understanding that a TPG slabs it. The terms of sale should be written to avoid conflict, methinks. Another option would be to find a very knowledgeable dealer in your area and pay him a nominal fee for his opinion.
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 Posted 09/26/2013  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list
I stopped at two dealers tha morning, both of their opinions is that it is real.

One stated everyone they have bought as real have come back from TPG's as real.
They had real slabbed ones, and raw fake ones to compare it to.

So I am going to go ahead and make a offer on it. Sometime in the future I will put
Five coins together ans submit to NGC.
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 Posted 09/27/2013  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
Looks real to me too. However, it is amazing how many fakes have been made of that coin and how many have gone through a TPGS and come back as real then resumitted and called fake. It happened to a dealer I know. He too just can't tell anymore. Many dealers I know say there are many of those fakes in Albums everywhere and people just don't know.
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 Posted 12/01/2014  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mitch721 to your friends list
No, I do not believe that it's authentic.
1. Both the top and bottom of the D are to be parallel. These are not. The bottom curves up.
2. The hole in the middle of the D is to be triangular shape. I don't think that this one is.

I hope I'm wrong. However, I would strongly suggest sending to ANACS
or one of the other services before buying. It's quite simple to do. Also, if there is a coin show within a reasonable distance, they usually have on-site free opinions. IF they say yes, then give it to them to take back, authenticate, and return with a certificate. It will save you a lot of future problems. Thanks
P.s. If you did have it authenticated, I would be anxious to know the outcome.
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 Posted 12/01/2014  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list
Yeah, that seems congruent with what I'm seeing! Hopefully I'm wrong, but get it checked out!
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 Posted 12/12/2014  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ziskindd to your friends list
Perhaps I am not seeing it, but the reverse is slightly rotated in respect of the obverse. I'd be wary.
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 Posted 12/12/2014  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
The D appears to be in the right location and shape appears good.
I say genuine.
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 Posted 12/12/2014  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgfindring to your friends list
Since the original post was a year ago, perhaps GR58 can tell us what happened.
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