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Pillar of the Community
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I don't know if the coin is real or not but the way you are holding it for the photos is not the best. You can see your fingerprints on the surface in the second to last picture. You should hold the coin by the edge. That way it won't get all ugly and it will hold full value.
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12/21/2013 11:35 pm
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hi swamp,from what I see,there are 3 vertical lines on the edge.My guess is it must have been polished at some point with more then likely rouge,can see very light swirls on the smooth parts.Would you like better pics?i can use my other camara if so.
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If you can get clear photos of the three seams it could help determine the exact method of manufacture.
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Pillar of the Community
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The edge letters look good. I believe it is genuine.
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wonghinghi The problem with looking correct is that a plastic transfer cast can be used to make dies that are correct in appearance. How the coin was manufactured and the clues left by that operation are usually a better way of authenticating. Once the incorrect edge lettering that used to be a good diagnostic of forgery was published it is logical that correction was the next step. raptorman14 Regarding the medal - I would advise you to send pictures to Lockdales of Ipswitch for an evaluation. They are honest dealers in precisely that kind of medal - it is one of your best options. http://www.lockdales.com/
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Pillar of the Community
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The surface appearance is 100% consistent with modern high end counterfeits, which have become somewhat common especially on ebay. They are also often purposely wiped with cloth (like this coin) or slightly damaged to discourage buyers from sending them in for certification. Weight and material testing are useless here, as the fakes are correct in both aspects. |
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thanks for the info on the medal swamp,like I say I got a whole bunce of stuff from my friend,i also got an old invitation to the opening of the school on the embankment,along with a full dinnerware sterling set,some old sterling spoons,and an old sterling what I believe is a caviar set,that was given at that event in 1882 I believe it was.wonder if that lockdales can give me advice on all this stuff.thanks again.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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raptorman14 Lockdales handles all of that type of material if it is in anyway associated with the UK and their sales do well.
The edge seams while correct in number for the British split collar still generate serious questions for me. Based on what I have seen so far - nothing is altering my opinion in the least. At least so far.
plonker - definitely report the two Italian coins they are both numismatic fantasies. Great looking space fillers but horrible investments.
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ok I will contact lockdales for the rest of the stuff,as for the gothic crown,i guess my only option is to ship it off to see if I can get it certified?
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At this point, I think That is a smart move,
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you seem to know your stuff swamper,being in Canada,any trustworthy suggestions where I can ship it,within north America?thanks
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ANACS accepts direct mail submission and their staff in the World Coin section might be slightly better with this type coin that either of the other two. NGC is at times too grade focused and stronger in US coins just like PCGS. |
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