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Pillar of the Community
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There is nothing on them that makes me think fake, the magnetism is normal. Id say they are authentic, but planted a long way from home. Why they were moved to LA is a thing we will never know, I'm guessing, but they are real roman coins and I can tell you that they werent dropped by a roman where you found them.
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good to hear! this is neat learning along with you...all this is just fascinating to me.. and you might have seen on the that thread I have suffered some ridicule by the ignorant unbelieving masses out there, (my "gold" turned out to be brass hehe but it fooled not just me at first blush)
I don't blame them for humor, I just have to laugh AT them not with Them, because I have the knowledge they don't about the site the entire time, and don't feel able to tell them lest I give it away, I know its rich history, they don't, which is why I went there in the first place.. it was calculated "luck" with some HARD work/skill determination for getting/finding it...so I'm cool with any skeptics either way they can think what they want I don't care.. I am giddy, thanks to you, these are my first Confirmed finds and YOU were a great Help getting there, so thank you again for taking the time to teach me, and It seems, and I hope you learned something as well?/ (learn something new every day)
I wouldn't be as confident in the authenticity if I didn't know the history of the site.. there are so many possibilities how they could get there and all are high prob. I think this The area was razed by machinery at some point, so never know where exactly they came from, but they ended up here with the trash/metal.
its possible they were dropped as the location as it was near the entrance/sidewalk to the house which is further back on the site. I could have been a park/resting area picknic area.
My theory- The owner of the collection had a kid, he could have been playing with "dads" stuff and lost them! or a missionary,prospector nun had them lost or put them there. bottom line is they are there and I hope there are many more..:) Looking forward to hunting this spot for a long time. I will def need your help in the future, my guess is if I find some in the same period...but at least I have SOME knowledge going in of what to expect and what they actually are thanks to you!
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01/05/2014 4:52 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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It is quite possible that a resident had a small collection of coins, and these were discarded as worthless and ended up in the demolition by who ever cleaned out the house. I hope you manage to find some more :)
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pish ya its not like they are worth millions or anything, and they were in bad shape to start maybe someone didn't know what they had etc...
or my friend thought maybe they were hidden in a wall in the house or under the floor who knows...this guy was rich, and I think he was probably a 33 Mason so you never know what is there.
Im kinda hoping there is a cache of them hidden somewhere around the house since we found 2 about 3 feet apart in same place... I went back found squat 2x so far but I only searched about 10% of it. Finding a hoard, prob wishful thinking...but I dream on.. lo
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Pillar of the Community
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Why is the AE coin in the 1st photo taken using a magnifier, yet the other coin in the 2nd is taken as normal?
Couldn't you have taken the 1st in the same way?
If they are your photos of course.
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Your first one is probably $5-10, second about $2-3 but hey..cool finds!
swcoin.ecrater.com
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all of them were using a jewelers loop placed over my cell phone I thought they came out great for what I was using! (it does work pretty good the coins were very dirty as well so it wasn't blurry only on edges. If you think its blurry look at the background behind them, that is GAMING pad with micro textures that you can almost make out in the shots lo.. I just cropped the extra stuff off those other shots... I will take some more, I just fixed my phone/camera. The coins are a bit cleaners now, so hopefully these will be clearer.
"if they are my photos?" ahhahah jeez everyone a doubter... lo
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Your first one is probably $5-10, second about $2-3 but hey..cool finds!
yea verm finding ancient copper roman coins... 10$ - look on jealous doubting jewelers face... PRICELESS! (can still see the look of amazement on his face, I wish I had taken a picture! hahahah :)
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is there a way to post images larger than 100k on here? I would like to share my stuff, but I'm really haumstrung trying to show you pics with that MB count... thanks! I got some new ones here...cleaned...can see a LOT more now! :) Only difference I see are the legs are a bit different? also this might help narrow it down as well since they are clearer, this is the first I have seen of them up close in pics after being cleaned... http://metaldetectingforum.com/show...#post1900276Edited by Goldmember333
01/05/2014 10:35 pm
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Ben I looked but couldn't find the exact coin to verify the constantius II coin with the backwards legs? There is a very distinct hand like object on the right shoulder of the figure holding the spear that I have not found a match for, there are many similar but not exact. I suppose there is a chance I wont find the EXACT match but I am hoping you will check the new clearer pictures and maybe get a better ID of that one?
I think the Julian II is solid match from what I can see though. If you click the link above you can see larger/clearer pictures of the slightly cleaned coins, I will try to clean even better along the edges where if there is writing as you suggested we might see it.
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01/06/2014 5:41 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Ancient coins are hand cut by many different hands - the examples you'll find online might be limited to a single coin in many cases but there were many many die cutters at each mint. Some hand their own motifs and variations - legs facing the other way, various fibuli and things. You'd be lucky to find an exact match (my main collecting aim in romans is to find a die match of a certain coin). If oyu look at a lot of examples from a certain mint, or issue depending on how that mint ran, you'll be able to spot a diecutter's work or be able to tell the issuing mint from a coin which is missing its legend. I can do that for Heraclean campgates (most of them, you do find some weird ones). EDIT: You'll need to upload images to an external site and use the IMG tags to put them here. From the pictures I could see, it looks like you've removed the patina  - Id get started trying to retone those - theres various methods to do that, the best being to leave them on a windowsil and turn them occasionally (every few weeks). It wont return the patina or remove the pitting, but the bright copper colour will dull. Edited by Ben
01/06/2014 6:01 pm
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New Member
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Edited by Goldmember333
01/06/2014 8:50 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Congratulations on your fun find! I wonder why they were discarded; tend to agree with Pish on the reason. Perhaps they were purposefully planted to provide some future digger with a little excitement. I don't see why those photos can't be made less than 100k. There's no need to have higher than ~72 pixels per inch for display on a computer screen and these tiny photos (consisting mostly of background) and pre-existing blurriness should not be adversely affected by dropping the resolution. If you don't have a capable photo editor such as Photoshop Elements, try using this forum's photo optimizer. You should be able to make a *very* large photo (dimension-wise) while still maintaining adequate resolution. Did you click on the link provided when you got the CCF error message saying that photos must be less than 100 kb? http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/....asp#600,600Here is an example of a much larger picture that is still less than 100kb:  |
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Its really not as far fetched as it may seem from surface to find these at this site in LA. This relic site once had a mansion on it that was razed, many years ago, and there were many prospectors/miners/treasure hunters visited this house to look for Gold in the local MTS. One of them could have lost them, not to mention Catholic Nuns stayed at this site for a period of time as well too.. also the owner was a Mason, and a Billionaire Tycoon so who knows? Most likely they were in the house somewhere when it was demolished (in a wall?) and ended up in this trash area on the site, when they dozed it. There is a lot of other debris in this particular area. but if someone did plant them there, Mission Accomplished! It made my day even if they are $5 coins.. Thanks for help on pics, I figured it out.... Ben/others.... 1. let me know if you have a better ID now that they are clearer if I need to change anything 2. what does the lettering say if you can read it on edges? thanks for all the help/interest everyone!       Edited by Goldmember333
01/07/2014 8:53 pm
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Does the below still apply Ben?
thanks....
"The top one reads DN CONSTANTIVS PF AVG and was produced between 337-361, this one being in later style so towards the end of the reign.
The bottom one reads FL CL IVLIANVS P F AVG or DN CL IVLIANVS NOB CAES (or something to that effect, variations exist for both) and was between 361-363"
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01/07/2014 10:37 pm
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