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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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@Fox I have spent a good deal of my life as a teacher and I really enjoy teaching teens. I am hoping I am not making an error in this, but you seem to be a young man with a mission much like I have seen many junior high school to high school students over the years. I just hate to see you set yourself up for disappointment and looking back in later years and wondering why you did not spend your money on something that was more lasting and would bring you more return in the future. As much as you would like to see the half and 2.00 bills spent, since I have been alive - the early 60s, the public opinion has been the same. They do not want to use larger coins and 2.00 bills... period. When I was younger I also loved halves and $2.00 for the novelty of them. I wished people liked them. But after 50 years of liking the idea of using them I can say it is so very highly mathematically improbable (read as impossible) for a dedicated individual like yourself to be able to turn the tide by organizing something like this at one store in this whole nation. And even if through some miracle this would snowball into wide acceptance by Walmart of distributing them, just like the dollar coins... people would refuse them after the novelty wore off. One or two are interesting to see b/c they are "rare" to most people. But when they get more than one or two, they reject them - the last 50 years shows this. Why don't you take your money and maybe invest in your own coin hobby and buy a better coin that you will be able to pass on in later years? Put your money where it actually will give tangible results that will last. You have a GREAT drive. I am not saying to abandon your dreams or set your goals to a lower level. I am suggesting you make your goal one that will actually benefit you/someone in the long run. A person with your drive can do a lot of good for a cause which will benefit people. If the right politicians had half your drive we would not be in the mess we are right now in the US.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1234 Posts |
I just put 40 small dollar coins, 2 Ike's and about 22 JFK's into cash registers today, some even to buy 4 Walking Liberty's (1937,1938,1942,1945) and an 1878 Morgan, no refusals but one said he was going to deposit them in the bank, it was the LCS and he said they have some in the till already for interesting change to give out, so they support the idea and the local recycle center likes to give out 1/2 and dollar coins. I asked a bank teller today and she said the mint is no longer going to be issuing the Presidential dollars for circulation, only for collectors. So it seems that battle is lost.  but I have to say the Walkers are much nicer than the clad Kennedy's
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Pillar of the Community
United States
814 Posts |
I believe the Presidential dollars haven't been issued for circulation for a couple years now, since there are so many in storage and no one wants them. Same for the Sacagawea's.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1234 Posts |
It seems the Chester A Arthur I just got is a 2011, guess you are right.
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Pillar of the Community
 708 Posts |
@Earl42, Well, if you consider a 33 year old a "young man" then I guess you are right. I must admit, I do have the mind of a child...most of the time. Anyway, I wanted to try to get a large store chain like Walmart or Kmart to distribute $2 bills and halves, and if people started accepting them, and "using" them instead of simply stashing them away, then I was hoping I could sway the vending industry into retooling their coin mechs to accept $2 bills and accept and dispense halves, and have stores eventually upgrade to new self checkout machines that accept and dispense, both $2 bills and halves. That is my goal, and I am not about to give up just yet. And if the store chain I choose, has a positive experience with circulating $2 bills and halves this year, I may ask them if they want to do it every year I can afford it. Or maybe they would just naturally do it from then on as their policy, and maybe other stores will start using them as their policy as well.
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Bedrock of the Community
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The vending industry is a done deal its just not going to happen. Theyre already moving more and more towards getting rid of cash all together adding credit card slots to the machines and yes I have seen credit only vending machines before. They arent spending thousands on a machine and millions overall to add halfs and twos even if they started to circulate a little bit.
Even if they were circulating a bit they wouldnt be the only thing people would carry. Almost everyone has a credit card and almost certainly would have other forms of bills or change on them. Small towns may not be all credit card yet but the fact is national company policies are constructed around what happens in cities which would be their largest source of machines. There youd be hard pressed to find any significant percentage of people without a credit card or speed pass ect.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10044 Posts |
@Fox Quote: Well, if you consider a 33 year old a "young man" then I guess you are right. I must admit, I do have the mind of a child...most of the time. That puts you and me in the same boat as my kids (nicely and tongue in cheek) let me know quite often they wish I would grow up. When I was a teacher though, it was great in the classroom as my students and I had a good time b/c they enjoyed when learning was fun.  And you are a young whipper snapper to a 51 year old that is pretty much house bound What I said was a friendly suggestion to you b/c I mistook your enthusiasm for that of someone much younger. Sorry for the mistake and no disrespect was meant.  Since you are enjoying what you are doing, have at it! Best wishes in your goals.
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New Member
Canada
22 Posts |
Got a half-dollar in my change last year while boarding the Washington State ferries. Paid $8 and for $7.50 fare and got a 1997 Kennedy back. I figure it was because my car had Canadian plates so the cashier decided to hand it off to me because it might make a nice souvenir or I wouldn't reject it. Actually ended up with some Sacagaweas and and Pres dollars too on the same trip - maybe because when American cashiers figure out I'm Canadian (i.e. giving ID for buying beer) they know we'll take them in our change, as a dollar coin is natural to us. Last CDN$1 I used was in 1987.
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Valued Member
United States
337 Posts |
Perhaps someone should start some sort of new business - such a vending machine - that only accepts $0.50 pieces. Or perhaps a CoinStar-like kiosk that rewards you if the coins you dump in are non-standard such as $0.50 or $1 IKEs. Or how about an Arcade that uses $.50 pieces instead of tokens!
I freely give these ideas to the universe at large since I know I will not ever do it myself. I'm hopefully optimistic that someone else will come up with a plan.
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Valued Member
United States
337 Posts |
If the half dies out, what will the proof and mint sets have? They contain few enough coins already.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
17884 Posts |
Two dollar billshave a chance for increased use IF the one dollar note was discontinued, but I think there is no hope for the half dollar. It just serves no real purpose and has no advantage over two quarters.
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Bedrock of the Community
United Kingdom
17980 Posts |
The nearest equivalent in the UK to the half dollar - in my experience - was the current £1 coin when it was first introduced in 1983. You hardly ever saw one, and shopkeepers always looked at them suspiciously. It was only after the Bank of England stopped printing £1 notes that the £1 coin became common. When I tendered two Kennedy halves in a downtown Miami Walgreens in December to buy a small candy bar, the cashier looked at them as if they were from outer space, but accepted them reluctantly after I told him they were half dollars!
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: If the half dies out, what will the proof and mint sets have? They contain few enough coins already. The half dollar is already dead, that is, NIFC. The mint sets, proof sets, mint bags, and rolls are the only way to get them. They make a lot of money doing this, so I doubt the mint will stop any time soon. Same will be said for the cent when we finally wise up and stop minting it for circulation. It will remain in mint sets, proof sets, and maybe even collector rolls and bags (at a nice premium, of course). In my perfect scenario, these NIFC cents will be bronze, not zinc. 
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New Member
Canada
22 Posts |
The American half-dollar will probably go the route of the Canadian 50c coin - produced for collectors only. The Canadian mint tried a half-hearted, one last attempt to push them for circulation I think back in 2002 which failed (I never saw any used), after which they stopped shipping 50c coins to banks. They are now manufactured solely for collection use or in rolls of 25 ordered direct from the Mint.
After recently reading about the huge, costly stockpiles of unused US$1 coins, I'm surprised the US Mint doesn't stop production of the $1 bill and unilaterally force people to use the dollar coins. When Canada did away with our $1 bill in 1987, we were not given a say or choice in the matter. Ditto with our $2 bill.
Our dollar coin of 1987 essentially killed off any chance of the 50c coin being used here again, as both are the same size.
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Moderator
 United States
189340 Posts |
Quote: The American half-dollar will probably go the route of the Canadian 50c coin - produced for collectors only. As I mentioned above, it already has gone that route. It did so 14 years ago.  Quote: I'm surprised the US Mint doesn't stop production of the $1 bill and unilaterally force people to use the dollar coins Actually, the BEP makes the notes, the Mint makes the coins. Regardless, the reason we still have one dollar notes is political, not practical. Quote: When Canada did away with our $1 bill in 1987, we were not given a say or choice in the matter. Ditto with our $2 bill. If only we could get our government to learn that lesson. 
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