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1903 S Half Eagle Updated New Pics

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 Posted 01/15/2014  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsandcoins32 to your friends list
I don't have the coin and these are seller pics. Honesty this coin scares me, I don't want to get burned if it has an issue or if there is some hidden circulation wear.
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 Posted 01/15/2014  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
If the price is right and the seller allows returns then go for it. How much do they want? Did they state why it isn't already slabbed?
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 Posted 01/16/2014  12:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list
Do you happen to have a new picture of the obverse?
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 Posted 01/16/2014  12:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list
A picture of the obverse would help.
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 Posted 01/16/2014  02:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rupester to your friends list
Are those mint marks the same in both pics? Optical illusion perhaps... Prob the same
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01/16/2014 02:30 am
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 Posted 01/16/2014  03:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
I'm still at MS64+ on this one, though an in hand inspection is a must, gold is a very soft metal and a tiny rub would go unnoticed in photos like these. The only obvious marks I see a very light contact mark on the chin. I think the rims look okay now from the original shot, but a coin like this really can't be graded from a couple of photos online properly. Get a return guarantee before committing to it, and I'd only get the coin if it were from a long time dealer with credibility, otherwise there are many other dealers out there. You get what you pay for, not to be nosy but is the dealer charging MS63, MS64 or MS65 money? There is a significant difference in value, and for you to put your trust in them they need to have a great track record in selling and buying coins like this. Can you perhaps have it submitted to PCGS or NGC after you get it, (Knowing the time frame will be much more than 2 weeks) and get either a partial refund if the grade doesn't come close, or a full refund if the coin is not genuine? Now if the coins is sold as a MS63 and comes back MS65, would you then pay more? Tough call, if it were me, I would not do the deal unless it was face to face and the coin was in my hand for inspection, and I know a little about gold, probably more than the average collector, but not enough I'd feel comfortable in calling it a MS64 vs. MS65+
It's any where from an AU at $520 to $2725 in MS65 where does the price you are being offered fall in that range?
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 Posted 01/16/2014  4:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsandcoins32 to your friends list
It is the same coin, What do you think about the fields in the reverse pic?
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 Posted 01/16/2014  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
The slight disturbances on the reverse fields would not preclude a gem grade and the rest of the coin is "all there".
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 Posted 01/16/2014  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list
I'll go MS-65.
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 Posted 01/16/2014  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list

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The slight disturbances on the reverse fields would not preclude a gem grade and the rest of the coin is "all there".


P.S. I should have said, "...if the rest of the coin is all there".

Without seeing it in-hand, there's no way to be sure. Good luck!
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Without seeing it in-hand, there's no way to be sure.


THIS ^
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 Posted 01/16/2014  11:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
Tell the Seller you want an extended return so you can send the coin in for authentication and grading. If he does not agree then YOU then know that: 1) it's already been sent in; and 2) it has problems.
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 Posted 01/17/2014  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsandcoins32 to your friends list
I decided not to buy the coin. It ended up being sold to someone else for $1200, I offered $1000 and took a shot, but there was no wy I was going to risk more than that.
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 Posted 01/17/2014  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
I still think the coin has already been body bagged at least once and the Seller was just trying to recoup his investment.

The general rule is if it's a valuable, good looking coin that has upside potential it WILL be sent in for grading before it's even offered for sale. Dealers do not like leaving money on the table.
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 Posted 01/21/2014  06:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add uchihadesendent to your friends list
for what it's worth ms 60
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