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1929 S MS-67 NGC: Is This Coin True To Its Grade?

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 Posted 01/16/2014  12:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rupester to your friends list
I think its a stunning coin
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 Posted 01/16/2014  06:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list
It is a beautiful coin...

It has great cart wheel luster, the reverse is stunning, I can see it being MS67.

I would leave it be in it's holder too.
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 Posted 01/16/2014  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Wow...awesome coin! Looks like a 67RD all day in my eyes.

Don't worry about PCGS, they are stupid when it comes to high grade copper and color. Leave it in the NGC holder and enjoy!
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 Posted 01/16/2014  11:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kookoox10 to your friends list
It does look 67, absolutely clean and devoid of any distracting marks. And the strike is sharp, which is usually tough on these 20's dated Lincolns.
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 Posted 01/16/2014  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list
MS-67 seems right.
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 Posted 01/17/2014  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
It's possible. However, no firm opinion could be rendered for a grade this high without extremely high-resolution images. Me, I wouldn't offer an opinion of 67 on any Lincoln which had ticks on the reverse lettering, unless combined with an even higher-grade obverse.
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 Posted 01/17/2014  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AlexanderBiwald to your friends list
I just sent in the coin to PCGS once again, hopefully this time it grades MS67 and crosses-over! I have my fingers crossed that they don't claim it Questionable Color, I really would like to see this coin in a PCGS holder and I know it will be a struggle to get that job done with !
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 Posted 01/18/2014  3:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
This is rather a tall order, expecting PCGS to not only cross it, but designate their first-ever 67 for the issue in doing so. And were I them, I'd be looking pretty closely at the spots over the shoulder, in UST, and above the left wheat stalk. I believe it was best said here, by someone who knows:


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You should not try again at PCGS. PCGS has never graded this date above MS66 and it might be tough to get that grade there. This is a date where PCGS MS66RD sells for more than an NGC MS67RD. I'd leave it in the NGC holder and be happy with it.
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 Posted 01/18/2014  6:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acloco to your friends list
With the slight toning/discoloration on the obverse, PCGS will not grade the coin. Have seen several and sent a 1909 with similar toning/discoloration - that came back with the same review.

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 Posted 01/19/2014  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
Thanks for the compliment SD. My input to the OP would be to let PCGS cross at a minimum grade of MS66RD. At least then you'd have a chance of getting it into PCGS plastic and gain value over the NGC 67. There's no realistic possibility of PCGS crossing it at 67 so you'll just be throwing money away. Well heck, I've bought a few PowerBall tickets. :)
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 Posted 01/21/2014  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AlexanderBiwald to your friends list
Any chance that PCGS would grade it at MS66+ ? I strongly feel like this coin is a solid MS67 and hopefully PCGS will realize that.
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Any chance that PCGS would grade it at MS66+ ? I strongly feel like this coin is a solid MS67 and hopefully PCGS will realize that.


If you submitted it raw they might. But seriously, how did you specify the crossover? With no minimum grade listed on the submission form it defaults to the current grade on the holder leaving no chance for a 66+.

You do realize if your coin crosses at at any grade then PCGS charges a Guarantee Premium based on the value of the coin? The Guarantee Premium is equal to 1% of the value of the coin in its final grade. The value of the coin is determined as the higher of the Declared Value or the PCGS Price Guide value for that grade.

In this case if your coin graded MS66RD you would be surcharged $46 (1% of $4600) but I assume you established a declared value of at least $5,000. Not trying to rain on your parade here, just making sure you know.
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 Posted 01/27/2014  07:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add uchihadesendent to your friends list
nice coin
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 Posted 01/27/2014  10:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
I would have left it in the NGC slab.
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 Posted 01/27/2014  11:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AlexanderBiwald to your friends list
I do understand all of those things, I would really like to see this coin crossover to PCGS MS67! Hopefully one day it will, I would even be willing to take a MS66+ grade! Hoepfully it doesn't get Questionable Color again...
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